Paul,

This is a guess, but when you are logged on as manager.sys
do a

:SHOWCATALOG

-Craig



--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Paul Raulerson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Paul Raulerson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: How to edit the SYSSTARTUP.PUB.SYS file?
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 4:27 PM
> <grin> Yes sysstartup_vms.com  is the startup file
> under OpenVMS.  I definitely meant SYSSTART.PUB.SYS.
>
> Problem is on this system, the file is locked and it is
> near impossible to get it *unlocked* - at least my any
> method I have
> been able to devise. Did get it unlocked one time, but I
> sure don't know how I did it. Tried all the stuff I can
> think of, like booting the machine into Single User mode,
> setting the automatic login to MANAGER.SYS, NOSYSSTART, etc.
>
>
> The little bugger insists on refusing to allow the file to
> be edited. A listfile sysstart.pub.sys 9, even with the
> system in Single user mode, gives me this:
>
> :listfile sysstart.pub.sys 9
> ********************
> FILE: SYSSTART.PUB.SYS
> 6 Accessors(O:6,P:6,L:0,W:0,R:6),Share
> #S7     MANAGER.SYS                P:2,L:0,W:0,R:2      REM
> : 216.110.21.130
>  #P22    (CI.PUB.SYS)
>    ACCESS: R-excl            REC#: 0
> FNUM: 9
>     LOCKS: none
>  #P48    (JSMAIN.PUB.SYS)
>    ACCESS: R-excl            REC#: 14
> FNUM: 13
>     LOCKS: none
> ...
> ...
> ...  [ more users here because I took this in multi-user
> mode ]
> ...
> ...
> With multiple users logged in, there is one set of these
> for each user, and one for the JINETD streamed job that
> supplies TCP/IP services like a telnet server.
>
> I *think* the problem may have something with the
> "R-excl"  - some kind of exclusive lock on the
> file. Not at all sure.
>
> I did not initially understand that there was something -
> eh -  "odd" about the way this little system was
> behaving. It looks like
> a real puzzle to me, but is probably some really simple
> answer.
> :)
>
> -Paul
>
> >
> >
> >On Monday, October 06, 2008, at 12:39PM, "Stan
> Sieler" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>Hi Paul,
> >>Subject:        	[HP3000-L] How to edit the
> SYSSTARTUP.PUB.SYS file?
> >>
> >>There is no such file: non-HFS filenames are
> limited to 8 characters per
> >>part, and "SYSSTARTUP" is a bit more than
> 8 :)
> >>
> >>If you're referring to SYSTART.PUB.SYS, then:
> >>
> >>1) logon as MANAGER.SYS (important...the OS checks
> the creator of that file
> >>   as a security check)
> >>
> >>2) :editor        (or whatever editor you
> prefer....but EDITOR is MPE's vi...
> >>                    free and on every system)
> >>
> >>   edit to your heart's content
> >>
> >>3) k
> >>
> >>   or
> >>
> >>    k sysstart, unn         (if making a new file)
> >>
> >>The "unn" means: keep the file unnumbered
> (you don't want sequence numbers
> >>in columns 73..80!).
> >>
> >>Hope that helps,
> >>
> >>Stan
> >>
> >>--
> >>Stan Sieler
> >>[log in to unmask]
> >>www.allegro.com/sieler/wanted/index.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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