And for the same reason nobody pays full price for consultants. Good
advice is available on the web for pennies on the dollar if you shop
around.
John Lee
> Exactly -- that is why I have been wondering for the longest time now
> why these third party vendors selling HP3000's are asking such ludicrous
> amounts of money for them.
>
> Why would I give them 10K+ for a system when I especially don't even get
> the license to go with it.
>
> I'll keep my little worthless 917LX for a while to come........
>
> Brian.
>
>
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:46:39 -0400, Brett Forsyth <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>>Well it is official - the e3000 has obsolutely no resale value.
>>
>>I have a few of these units up for sale on ebay, here, and a few other
>> places -
>> e3000/N4000 380x2 and e3000/N4000 750x4 machines - and I can't even get
>>a reasonable offer.
>>
>>20K for a 750x4 / 10K for a 380x2 and accepting offers - these aren't
>>unreasonable prices - and this is just for the hardware, no license
>> included.
>>
>>One would think that at these prices, the cost of the RTU would be the
>> only
>>factor - 20K for hardware / 80K for the OS - experienced HP3000 users
>> should
>>be used to that ratio - I am - it is the way it has always been.
>>
>>If the hardware is at give away prices, and the market states there is
>> still a
>>demand for e3000s, then the RTU pricing must be killing the market -
>> right?
>>
>>FYI - Client Systems offered 1.5K and 3K respectively for the above
>> systems.
>>
>>Food for thought... if HP offers an RTU package, is there really any such
> thing
>>as an "illegal" system, or just a system that has not been RTU'ed yet?
>>
>>Second thought - since the RTU is the end users responsibility, not the
> sellers
>>(as per HP RTU policy), then why all the hoopla over "unlicensed systems"
>>being sold? Unlicensed and illegal are two different things since the
>> RTU has
>>come into play. In fact, with the RTU policy in place, is there really
>> any
> such
>>thing as an illegal system from a resale standpoint?
>>
>>Please note that putting an RTU on a used system is not the
>> responsibility of
>>the reseller, but the buyer, however according to Joan @ HP SLT, they now
>>are requiring the reseller to do this since the end users were not
>> following
>>through properly.
>>
>>...another mid stream policy change that helps no one but Client
>> Systems...
>>
>>Well, here is one man's opinion - it will be a cold day in hell before I
> sell a
>>system to Client Systems for 3K, so that they can screw someone else for
>>80K+ on the resale. I'll drive a forklift over them first....
>>
>>So, help me find a need for these machines - lease time, rental units,
>> parts
>>machines, DR boxes - you call it, I'll supply it.
>>
>>Brett Forsyth
>>CTS Arizona
>>602.315.6018
>>
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