In message <[log in to unmask]>, Wirt Atmar 
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>Roy writes:
>
>> All you guys are missing the point that he wants to get the tunes off
>> his iPod.
>>
>> iTunes won't do that, except for purchased tunes you load directly on
>> the iPod from the iTunes Store.
>>
>> Sometimes, people find themselves with a hosed PC where the PC was
>> holding the iTunes library. They still have the tunes on their iPod, but
>> no way to return them to the mothership :-(
>
>I'm not sure that that's true any longer.
>
>Paul Scott said that he's never bought any songs from iTunes, and that was
>true for me too until, in one update a few months ago, Apple put iTunes on
>the iPhone.  I decided, what the heck, I'll spend a dollar or two and 
>see how it
>works.
>
>Unfortunately, it worked so well that it became addictive. iTunes on the
>iPhone is the best designed database interface that I have ever seen. Two
>million songs at your fingertips, with absolutely superior cover art.
>
>I now have 334 songs on my iPhone, Mussorsky and Mozart, Moe Bandy and
>the Mamas and the Papas, almost all of them downloaded through the iPhone.
>Even more importantly, when I dock the iPhone with the particular Mac that I
>use as a central repository, it automatically downloads the files first 
>from the
>iPhone to the Mac and then uploads any new songs/videos that I may have
>purchased using the Mac version of iTunes, so that everyone is in sync.
>
>Apple had to make the new versions of iTunes work this way if they were
>going to support iTunes on the iPhone.
>
>After I've synched these two machines, I connect the other iPod machines
>that we have, and they too are automatically synched with the Mac's newly
>merged library.
>
>Although I haven't tried it, I'm sure that if the Mac died, redocking 
>the iPhone
>into a new PC/Mac would automatically restore the iTunes library. It does
>essentially that now, but only for the delta changes.
>
>There's no reason that our 5th Generation video iPods can't work the same
>way (it is, after all only a small matter of software), but I've never had the
>occasion to find out if the 5th Generation iPods will automatically refresh an
>empty PC/Mac iTunes library the way the iPhone does.
>
>Wirt Atmar

I said (see above):

iTunes won't do that, except for purchased tunes you load directly on 
the iPod from the iTunes Store.

Nothing you have said above contradicts that.

Redocking your iPhone into a new PC/Mac will, I predict, wipe all the 
tunes you loaded from other than the iTunes Store.

And maybe even wipe the tunes you loaded to the previous Mac from the 
iTunes Store, and then to the iPhone, rather than directly to it.

But I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong.
-- 
Roy Brown        'Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be
Kelmscott Ltd     useful, or believe to be beautiful'  William Morris

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