In message <[log in to unmask]>, Wirt Atmar 
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>Olav asks:
>
>> I have a nano (3rd gen) full of tunes.  I would like to upload more
>> songs and download the previous tunes.  Is there a good free PC program
>> that will do it ?
>
>While I don't have an iPod nano, I do have video and non-video standard
>iPods, an iPhone and a couple of iPod shuffles, and I presume that it doesn't
>work any differently. I do exactly what you want to do using iTunes (on either
>a PC or Mac).
>
>To create specific repositories of songs, build different "on-the-go" 
>playlists
>from your library of tunes and upload whichever playlist you feel like that
>day/week. When you grow tired of that list, upload a different playlist.
>
>You can also do this manually using the manual sync function of iTunes, but if
>you have a large number of songs, it will be tedious.
>
>Wirt Atmar

All you guys are missing the point that he wants to get the tunes off 
his iPod.

iTunes won't do that, except for purchased tunes you load directly on 
the iPod from the iTunes Store.

Sometimes, people find themselves with a hosed PC where the PC was 
holding the iTunes library. They still have the tunes on their iPod, but 
no way to return them to the mothership :-(

But there are PC programs that will do this; I can't recommend any 
specific one, as I've never used any of them.

What I *can* tell you, though, is that if you get your iPod into an 
unrecoverable state, where even the iTunes reset/repair won't work - 
usually through a failed firmware update - then the official advice is 
that is has to go back to Apple.

But my unofficial advice is that if you can still connect it to your PC, 
treat it as a disk drive and reformat it. Quick format is OK, and indeed 
is the only format option that will work within a sensible timescale.

After that, you can give the device to the iTunes reset/repair, and it 
will put the whole thing back straight for you.

Advice exists on the net for rebuilding the empty file structure on your 
iPod, from Unix. I'm sure it's correct, but it makes you head spin.

And the reset/repair does this anyway, easily, and is guaranteed to get 
it right.

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