Connie, as our Amigo Denys has pointed out in the recent past, it's
winter here in Texas, and at times, the chilly air can make one's
comments seem, umm, less than understandable.

8-)


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Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Which is your favorite?

Denys,
How strange - I took James' comments regarding the 'last 8 years' to 
refer to the Bush administration, and the WMD war in Iraq, the raping 
of the environment in deference to Big Business, the undermining of 
the rights of the American consumer with regard to safety and 
damages...

Perhaps I missed a post?   Anyway, it's always refreshing to read 
what James writes.

Connie

>James, thank you for the great analysis of the damages wrought by the
AGW
>hoax. One can only hope that Algore will be arrested and punished, but
as
>you say, that's not likely to happen.  The other public officials that
>perpetuated the myth should also be dealt with, but I doubt this will
occur.
>
>The damage inflicted on this country by the perpetuation of this hoax
that
>played on the public's fear, is incalculable.  We are now burning our
food
>supply for fuel because we are absolutely scared to use oil.  We are
leaving
>this oil to be drilled for by other countries who do not share our
current
>hysteria.
>
>Burning our food supply is leading to massive increases in the price of
food
>which will hit women, children and minorities hardest.  This will get
even
>worse as the planet continues to cool down; we are heading for colder,
>harsher winters, with no capacity to deal with the increase in the need
for
>energy.
>
>As people realize the whole thing was a manufactured scare it will be
up to
>us to convince our leaders to get with reality and stop the aberrant
>behavior.
>
>Thanks again, James.
>
>Denys...
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf
>Of James B. Byrne
>Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 9:45 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: [HP3000-L] OT: Which is your favorite?
>
>>  In war, it's never who's right...it's who's left.
>
>I venture to say that Europeans in general and the Germans in
particular
>possess a considerable sentiment to the contrary.
>
>>  The US is the only country I know that went from barbarism to
decadence
>>  in 200 years and missed out civilization in between.
>
>Untrue.  The United States of America is a highly civilized and
generally a
>beneficent member of the community of states.
>
>The frightening lesson to be taken from the past eight years of U.S.
history
>is that even highly civilized states with considerable systemic
protection
>from aberrant behaviour on the part of public office holders can be led
into
>doing terrible and self-destructive acts.  All it requires is enough
public
>hysteria, usually generated by irrational fear, to close ones mind to
the
>enormity of the error one is committing.
>
>However, and this is the critical point, all fears eventually pass and
in
>their place ofttimes comes remorse.  In a civilized country, as the USA
most
>certainly is, this remorse leads to self-examination, reflection, and
>eventually the erection of even greater social protections against the
whim
>of
>emotion.  This is the stage that the U.S. is now entering and those
that
>betrayed their country whilst consumed by the passions of fear will
find
>themselves ever more shunned and marginalized by those who deeply and
>profoundly regret what has happened.  The guilty may never stand trial,
for
>such is the case with the powerful, but the influence and
persuasiveness of
>their beliefs will diminish.  For many of them, this will be a harsher
>punishment than any a court could impose.
>
>We need only look to the past and consider how in past generations the
>beliefs
>professed and treatment meted out by the powerful towards aboriginal
peoples
>in the 19-20C; Socialists, Germans and Chinese in the early 20C;
Germans and
>Japanese during WWII; Communists in the 1950s; and blacks up to the
present
>day are now widely held in contempt by mainstream society.
>
>The mark of a civilized people is not that they never err, but that
they
>learn
>from those errors.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>
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