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Hi Shawn :)
    Ok... while the CFB's can save a lot of money... even the instant on's
can be that much slower than those of us who "move with a purpose" when
entering and exiting a room :)  I put several of 'em in our condo... some
in can lights (paid a pretty penny for those since they had to be able to
work upside down and be instant on :(  ) and they didn't last very long...
seemed to take a while (5-10 minutes) to get up to full strength and just
weren't worth the savings...

   I like and use floresent (spelling) shop lights in the garage ... they
are great for about 265 watts worth of power I light a 28x30 foot garage
enough that I can work with power tools and table saws without endangering
body parts due to level of light :)  But man I wouldn't even dream
(nightmare?) of putting anything but incandesent in the main stairwell of
the house!  I have to be able to go up and down thos e stairs in the middle
of the night and sure ain't gonna wait  for a light to turn on! hehehe

   And it was my understanding that Ben Franklin is the author or Daylight
Savings Time and that it could work... the question seems to be what do we
use electricity for?  I mean is it for lights?  or for the TV/Cable
box/VCR/Games?    Do we use a full oven when a toaster oven would do the
trick?

    I wonder about some of the alternatives that seem to be coming on ...
Hybrid cars?  hmmm... what is gonna happen to all those batteries when they
need to be replaced?  Whatever happened to the solar designed homes that
were a big thing here in the Northwest back in the 70's?  The house across
from my Dad's was converted to sue various materials that would trap heat
in the daylight and release it slowly through the night... The current
owner ripped it all out and made it "modern" last year... there went
thousands that never got ROI :(

Art  "ramblin's of a electric addict " Bahrs
P.S. and no I don't mean a "wirehead" ala Larry Niven :)

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All my VCR's, cable boxes, PDA's, cell phones and desktop computers
"know" when DST is and change their time when it comes up, I'm
certain that almost none of them will be correct now, but I could be
wrong, for everything that pings its time from a server, then all
those servers needed to be updated to change how time is
accommodated.  Just from my own experience during Y2K when I got
really interested in time zones and DST and all that, I found that
hardly anyone had their systems correct and in 4GL shops they were
having all sorts of problems with hardware and software clocks being
out of sync and often times this was due to DST not being correctly
adjusted.  I wrote a very short and simple script that will adjust it
and put it out there years ago, I see it floating around now and
again.  I even wrote a program that will check to make sure if your
hardware and software clock and DST are right and fix them if you
want them to (on a 3000), but look at all that work right now.  You
think that zero effort was put in to making Windows update
correctly?  You think zero effort was put in to making sure your cell
phone updates correctly?  This little change was not free, and it
certainly isn't going to result in any energy savings, people still
come home at the same time.  You'd have better energy savings by
sending everyone a pack of CFB light bulbs in the US and have them
swap out their lights, now THAT would save huge amounts of energy.

At 02:41 PM 2/6/2007, Tracy Pierce wrote:
>Wow, that leaves me in the dark.  Don't waste any bile, please, but What
>sort of "huge expense in the private sector for all kinds of devices" do
>you mean?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Shawn Gordon
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 9:10 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: DST Changes
> >
> > I have to say that I'm stunned that this legislation never got
> > overturned, I really thought it would.  They've doinked around with
> > DST a lot of times, the last time it was extended was because of the
> > BBQ lobby, this time I saw an interview with the congressman that put
> > it forward and his lame, stuttering reason was "wouldn't it be nice
> > to get home from work and have it still be light out?".  Well, if
> > that is the argument, then have DST in the winter instead of the
> > summer - oh yea,they tried that and kids were going to school in the
> > dark.  I personally hate DST and now it's 3 weeks longer causing a
> > huge expense in the private sector for all kinds of devices and it is
> > all on the whim of some moron in congress.
> >
> > At 08:39 AM 2/6/2007, Paul Edwards wrote:
> > > >From the WXPNews newsletter:
> > >
> > >Daylight Saving Time change: how will it affect your computer?
> > >
> > >One aspect of a Energy Policy Act of 2005 mandated a big
> > change in daylight
> > >saving time, which will be extended by four additional weeks
> > starting in
> > >2007. Well, 2007 is here and the change takes effect on
> > March 11, when DST
> > >starts three weeks earlier than usual. Folks with older computers are
> > >wondering what problems, if any, the time change will cause. If your
> > >computer is relatively new and automatically updated, you
> > probably don't
> > >have anything to worry about. Older operating systems may
> > require you to
> > >manually update. Microsoft is making update tools available
> > for Windows,
> > >Outlook, Exchange and mobile products.
> > >
> > >For more info about Microsoft products affected by the
> > change and what you
> > >should do to make the transition easier, including links to update
> > >utilities, see:
> > >http://www.wxpnews.com/RXW0N7/070206-DST
> > >
> > >All versions of Windows can be updated using the procedure
> > in KB article
> > >914387 at
> > >http://www.wxpnews.com/RXW0N7/070206-DST-Updates
> > >
> > >***************************************************************
> > >  CDR Paul Edwards USNR Ret.       HP 3000 Certified Consultant
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> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Shawn Gordon
> > President
> > theKompany.com
> > www.thekompany.com
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Regards,

Shawn Gordon
President
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www.thekompany.com
www.mindawn.com
949-713-3276

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