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In times past and jobs long forgotten; I dropped users into the snails
pace of the big "E", only when I felt like exerting "power" over those
who would not comply with the wishes of management.

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Robert Mills
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 5:29 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: SHOWQ command and Quantum question

At my last gig we used the E queue but it had been heavily modified to
sit between the C and D queues. In our case E stood for Express and was
only for urgent low resource/impact jobs.


regards, 
  
Robert W.Mills
Systems Development Manager
Pinnacle Arvato
(020) 8309 3604 


-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Tony Summers
Sent: 31 January 2007 13:13
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] SHOWQ command and Quantum question

Avoid A and B queues for your programs/jobs - those are reserved for
system processes. 

Generally use the C queue for sessions and D queue for jobs,  although
some 3rd party products that run via background jobs need up-lifting to
CQ.   We also run some of our own "important" background jobs in the C
queue. 

I've not often seen the E queue being used except for un-important jobs
that have no possiblity of impeding (e.g. tranasction locks) other
processes. 

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Skiba, Bruno
Sent: 30 January 2007 23:26
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [HP3000-L] SHOWQ command and Quantum question

Greetings to all you Listers out there!
I want to pick at some of those massive brains out there with some MPE
wizardry.

I was wondering about how others have their systems setup with regard to
running jobs in different queues.
If I issue a "showq;active":

I get a table like this:

 DORMANT                                   RUNNING

Q  PIN   JOBNUM                           Q  PIN   JOBNUM

                                          B  U2603 #J3459
                                          C  M993  #S6417
                                          C  U1833 #J3917
                                          D  U3000 #J3941


                    ------QUANTUM-------
QUEUE  BASE  LIMIT  MIN    MAX    ACTUAL  BOOST  TIMESLICE
-----  ----  -----  ---    ---    ------  -----  ---------
 CQ    152    200   1      2000   2       DECAY    200
 DQ    202    238   2000   2000   2000    DECAY    200
 EQ    240    253   2000   2000   2000    DECAY    200

I guess I need some more information about how this mechanism works.

It seems to me that the CQ gets all the available QUANTUM allocated to
it, yet is currently using 2.
I guess I'm wondering if this should be a little more "balanced" and is
there a way to change this situation or is it even necessary?

I know that since we migrated to UC4 (on MPE) most of the production
jobs that
UC4 processes run at a DQ.

We only have some higher priority jobs running all the time at CQ and 1
or 2 of our realtime jobs run at BQ.

Thanks,
Bruno

Bruno Skiba
Computer Operator, Corporate HQ
Phone: +1(603)422-8373
mailto: bskiba -at- servicecu -dot- org

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