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Chuck Ryan <[log in to unmask]>
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Chuck Ryan <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:42:07 -0600
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Exaggerate much?

I would attempt to clarify your little rant but prefer to simple decline
your invitation to join you in your delusion.

Comments are my own, not my employer's... etc. 

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Raphael Sulkovitz
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:34 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: OT: knowledge on youtube

It is refreshing to see how strong and entrenched is the democratic
spirit in this country.  That's why we can rightfully claim to be a
light unto other nations.  Chuck' suggestion to restrict voting, is not
democraticly strict enough.  What about allowing voting just to top
earners, say, $500,00/annum (adjusted annually, for inflation). For the
sake of diversity, we could, possibly, allow in other groups with
qualifications such as good looks, athletic achievement,  physical
stature, academic performance.  What a brave new world would that be!

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Chuck Ryan <[log in to unmask]> 

> Actually I think we need to leave some voters behind. 
> 
> Limiting the vote to those citizens who actually contribute to society

> either through military service, public service, paying taxes or even 
> volunteering time/labor for community projects would make people value

> their vote and perhaps encourage them to do some research on who they 
> are voting for. 
> 
> There are currently far too many societal freeloaders who contribute 
> nothing but always vote for whoever promises the most giveaway
programs. 
> 
> Nobody has the 'right' to a free ride. 
> 
> 
> Comments are my own, not my employer's... etc. 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On 
> Behalf Of John Lee 
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:29 AM 
> To: [log in to unmask] 
> Subject: Re: OT: knowledge on youtube 
> 
> I know they're attempting to be humorous, but we do have that policy
for 
> 
> all of our elected officials. It's called an election! How about a "No

> 
> voter left behind" movement? Do your homework and hold your elected 
> officials accountable instead of letting them rob the treasury with 
> selfish 
> motives. 
> 
> John Lee 
> 
> At 11:26 AM 1/22/07 -0500, Bruce Collins wrote: 
> >John Clogg wrote: 
> >>What is the solution, then? Public schools are required to accept
any 
> 
> >>student. 
> > 
> >Perhaps you need to adopt a "No Presidents Left Behind" Policy :-) 
> > 
> >http://www.avantnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=328 
> > 
> >Here's an excerpt: 
> >" 
> >A key provision of No President Left Behind is the requirement that
the 
> 
> >office of the presidency develop a collection of assessments, policy 
> >success rates, and other indicators on which presidential performance

> can 
> >be judged. Presidents will be required to meet Adequate Yearly
Progress 
> 
> >(AYP) levels across the range of indicators, cross-referenced with 
> goals 
> >as announced in campaign appearances, State of the Union speeches,
and 
> >other public events. 
> > 
> >Presidents who fail to meet AYP levels, to be externally assessed 
> though a 
> >rigorous NPLB annual testing program, are considered to have "fallen 
> >short", which then qualifies the failing president for additional 
> >assistance in the form of better advisors, better policies, and, in 
> >extreme cases, remedial education. 
> >" 
> > 
> >Bruce 
> > 
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