Michael,

Normally I avoid the OT posts but.... Nobody in
military service has been "stuck" in Iraq. If you join
(and we do have a volunteer force) than you damned
well should know that you may wind up in a combat
zone. Military service is not a democracy where you
get to vote and have a choice in where you serve
(within limits). There are recruits enlisting so that
they CAN serve in Iraq in spite of the idiotic
administration that got us there. And there are many
other reasons why recruiting falls short at times.
Again many of them are the fault of past or current
admistrations (low pay, poor benefits, broken promises
of retirement benefits, etc.). Deride Bush and his
admistration all you want, but walk a mile in their
boots before you go off on the grunts.

John Bawden

--- Michael Baier <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> John,
> 
> so we are both right and so was Kerry.
> You either learn in school or college here or you
> might get stuck in Iraq, 
> if you join.
> If you join at the moment chances are pretty good
> that you get stuck in 
> Iraq. guess that could be one reason why the army
> struggles for recruits.
> 
> Nobody ever said, that the military only has
> challeneged people.
> Pentagon has several in my opinion considering the
> planning of this war.
> 
>
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/02/20/struggling_for_recruit
> s_army_relaxes_its_rules/
> Struggling for recruits, Army relaxes its rules
> In January, the enlistment age for active-duty Army
> recruits was raised 
> from 35 to 40. 
> Late last year, a key drug test for recent use of
> marijuana was softened. 
> Last fall, a high school equivalency program was put
> in place for high 
> school dropouts. 
> And last spring, a ban on childhood asthmatics was
> removed.
> 
>
http://edition.cnn.com/2000/US/02/03/army.recruitment/
> U.S. Army offers new education incentives to attract
> recruits
> 
>
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,78111,00.html?ESRC=army-a.nl
> Army Secretary Noel Harvey and Gen. Richard Cody,
> the vice chief of staff, 
> said Monday that the Army is using looser Defense
> Department rules that 
> permits it to sign up more high school dropouts and
> people who score lower 
> on mental-qualification tests, but they denied that
> this meant it was 
> lowering standards. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 05:18:33 -0800, John Bawden
> <[log in to unmask]> 
> wrote:
> 
> >Michael,
> >
> >While you might be correct that most recruits don't
> >have college degrees, neither do most of the
> freshman
> >in college. Everybody has to start somewhere.
> However,
> >the military services all emphasize education, both
> >civilian and military. After spending 20 years in
> the
> >Army, I knew MANY fellow soldiers that had attained
> >bachelors and masters degrees and had taken
> >significant number of advanced military
> >training/education, myself included.
> >
> >John Bawden
> >Homestead3000 Consulting
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> >
> >
> >
> >--- Michael Baier <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> thats why according to Rumsfeld we have this army
> >> and not the one we wish
> >> for.
> >>
> >> Ok, show me the statistic with recruits that have
> a
> >> college degree.
> >> Show me, that they are the majority.
> >>
> >> you were the exception (positive) just like the
> >> idiots are the exception
> >> (negative)
> >>
> >> and the majority is:
> >>
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