I question the whole story.  I doubt one could walk up to the Vice 
President in a public place, or get even remotely close.  I could hardly 
get into the Metrodome yesterday to watch the Twins game there's so much 
security around.

John Lee

At 05:09 PM 10/4/06 -0400, Brice Yokem wrote:
>Brice,
>it fails, because a large number of people elected are corrupt and only
>work in the best interest of the highest bidder.
>Is it just human nature?
>
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>
>It is human nature, people's basic nature is to be stupid and lazy.
>If you have a system which rewards people for that, guess what happens?
>
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>
>Where is then the difference between a dictatorship and this?
>We can vote every 4 years, true. But that is about the only difference.
>As soon as one is elected, the bidders show up and start throwing money
>around.
>Not many can resist this, no matter what party they belong to.
>
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>
>You have to be kidding.  The people still have a say in who gets elected.
>A bit different than a dictator who answers to no one.
>
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>
>That is one of the things that Tom DeLay really perfected. Bring
>former/future politicians into companys and later they will represent the m
>with the best interest.
>
>Maybe Wirt has a solution, I don't except not being quiet.
>
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>
>Well, he thinks I am an idiot, so how do you respond to that?
>
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>Even if this are the consequences: Free Speech ??????? DEMOCRACY ??????
>
>Kirk Johnson writes in the New York Times: "A Colorado man who was
>arrested
>in June on harassment charges after he approached Vice President Dick
>Cheney to denounce the war in Iraq filed a federal lawsuit on Tuesday
>accusing a Secret Service agent of civil rights violations.
>
>"In his suit, filed in Federal District Court in Denver, the man, Steven
>Howards, an environmental consultant who lives in Golden, Colo., says he
>stepped up to the vice president to speak his mind in a public place and
>found himself in handcuffs -- in violation, the suit says, of the
>Constitution's language about free speech and illegal search and
>seizure. . . .
>
>"The suit joins two others -- in West Virginia and another in Denver --
>charging that Secret Service agents or White House staff members violated
>the law in keeping people with opposing political views away from
>President
>Bush or Mr. Cheney."
>
>Mike McPhee writes in the Denver Post: "While walking his 11-year-old son
>to a piano lesson, Howards saw Cheney shaking hands and posing for photos .
>He walked over and told Cheney, 'I think your policies in Iraq are
>reprehensible.' . . .
>
>About 10 minutes later, Howards and his 8-year-old son were walking back
>through the square when [Secret Service Agent Virgil Reichle Jr.]
>allegedly
>walked up to Howards and asked him whether he had assaulted the vice
>president.
>
>"'He came out of the shadows,' Howards said. 'He didn't accuse me but
>asked
>me if I had assaulted Cheney. I said no, he grabbed me and handcuffed me
>behind my back in front of my son. As he led me away, I told him I can't
>abandon my son. He said he'd call social services.'"
>
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>Oh come on Michael, you have to be kidding.  With the world full of
>potential assasins, and this guy thinks he can approach the VP like
>that and not have consequences?  Would you think the same if it were
>Bill Clinton approached by some guys calling him a commie-pinko?
>
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