we think alike  <<< here is what I sent Pete in private>>

There was a board member of OpenMpe let go a few weeks ago. His name was Bill Lancaster "don't ask me about him" Anyway I think there is reason enough to get you a seat on the OpenMpe Board "if this is what you want" Not sure if you want your hands tied with NDA's. Anyway, Birket Foster has his hands on both sides of the fence with tools from his CO to support both migration and homesteading.

-------------- Original message from Pete <[log in to unmask]>: -------------- 


> J. Dolliver - 
> 
> Your post is definitely inspiring! 
> 
> On 9/15/06, [log in to unmask] wrote: 
> > 
> > Soapbox ON 
> > 
> > MPE is alive and well, It's the only reason HP gave the death sentence an 
> > additional 2 years of life support or " a revenue stream for HP and also 
> > making the case that they are just not willing to give it to ANYBODY" There 
> > are over 300 Ecometry sites, 35 or so Amisys sites, Uncounted ManMan sites 
> > and then there are the Precision3000,SFD, Custom shops aside from the many 
> > QSS and Carter Pertaine now merged sites still running MPE. Jim Chance just 
> > cannot find or see the light that there are many reasons that MPE should 
> > live on. Maybe we should do a survey AGAIN but this time count the customers 
> > and non-customers. If you know them see if they are willing to speak up. 
> 
> Don't know them. I've been out of the HP3000 world for awhile, and 
> the last time was to nursemaid an ancient inhouse manufacturing system 
> along until it could be replaced by the new corporate ERP system. 
> Ugly ancient stuff, but it worked day in and day out, 24x7. 


-------------- Original message from Craig Lalley <[log in to unmask]>: -------------- 


> I would like to make a motion that Pete Eggers replaces Bill Lancaster on the 
> board. 
> 
> Since Bill's departure there has been a vacancy... maybe some new blood can 
> help the ole'board. 
> 
> :-) 
> 
> Happy Friday all. 
> 
> -Craig 
> 
> 
> Pete wrote: 
> I've really got to get going now, but will be back next week sometime. 
> 
> It appears that HP is not going to give out MPE source until it is too 
> late. And even if they did, I am not sure that anyone would want to 
> tackle it without being well compensated, and it would take a fair 
> sized team of top techies to do it. 
> 
> I guess a basic plan of attack needs to be drawn up that a "critical 
> mass" of techies and companies can agree on and support. Followed by 
> a fleshed version with a timeline and some commitments. It appears 
> that the 3rd party application system people are what is keeping MPE 
> alive now, and would be critical to moving forward. When I get back, 
> I could send them my proposals for review and comment, and go from 
> there. If you know who the key people are at any of the companies, I 
> would appreciate their contact info. 
> 
> Bye for now, 
> - Pete 
> 
> 
> On 9/15/06, [log in to unmask] wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > Because HP knows deep down they screwed up by trying to kill it when CF 
> > wanted to gone because there 
> > 
> > was no room for a propriety OS in it's line up of Commodity system line up. 
> > HP did not break out the value in MPE from HP-UX wich sells for very slim 
> > margins. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Also since they were taken over by Compaq no pun intended, there mind set 
> > changed. There used to be a community atmosphere at HP. Carly liked the idea 
> > of how Compaq lawyers ran things and so the air in HP was changed from 
> > openness to draining the company of all it's talant pool. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Q.The longer they hold out, the less viable MPE becomes. Is that their 
> > plan, waiting until there is no hope of resurrection? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > You answered your own question. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > That is why people like you are a must to keep the flame burning. The board 
> > at OpenMpe have their hands tied. That does not mean they don't care, it's 
> > HP having them sign their life away with exclusive NDA's. I compare it to 
> > working for NSA. You cannot tell what you know or you will be eliminated. 
> > Then the slow death sentence of MPE. What HP did not plan for was the heavy 
> > resistance. People like you,the captain and there are many others that keep 
> > a low profile that are ready to keep MPE around for many years to come. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -------------- 
> > 
> > 
> > > J. Dolliver - 
> > 
> > > 
> > > On 9/15/06, [log in to unmask] wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > Pete, When the webpage is back up for OpenMpe take the time to read the 
> > > > minutes going back in time, you will see the bottle necks in this mess 
> > are 
> > > > Dave W, Mike P. These two guys are the slugs that HP has given the honor 
> > to 
> > > > "slow / stop" the process of allowing MPE source to be placed in the 
> > hands 
> > > > of a company that will safely store it. 
> > > 
> > > I will give it a read. Right now I have to prepare for a trip out of 
> > > town and won't be back until next week sometime. 
> > > 
> > > If HP wants to drop all support for MPE, why do they care what happens 
> > > to it? Why not open source it and put it up on an OpenMPE file 
> > > server? The longer they hold out, the less viable MPE becomes. Is 
> > > that their plan , waiting until there is no hope of resurrection? 
> > > Maybe the minutes will have some clues. Next week ... 
> > > 
> > > - Pete 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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