I don't think we went into Iraq to ONLY check for WMD.  I think we went in 
to establish a military base from which we can monitor the activities of 
rogue nations who are intent on attacking us and randomly killing the 
citizens of free societies, as they have been doing unchecked for many 
years.  No one has ever stood up to this army before.  Now we are because 
we have to.  War is a dirty business, but what do you do when the enemy 
insists that the attacks will continue until all Americans are dead?

John Lee



At 10:11 AM 4/13/06 -0400, James B. Byrne wrote:
>On Thu, April 13, 2006 0:00, HP3000-L automatic digest system said:
>On   Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:00:03 -0500, Denys Beauchemin
><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > When next you speak with Herr Baier, can you ask him a simple question,
> > to wit:  "Do you ever get tired of being wrong?"
> >
> > http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraqi_mobile_plants/paper_w.pdf
> >
> > The report Herr Baier mentioned is wrong.  The trailers were indeed
> > biological weapons laboratories.
>
>The persistent distaste that you exhibit towards any who confront your own
>want of skepticism with respect to anything that originates from number
>1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is no substitute for material evidence.  The
>paper that you cite was written barely two months after the U.S. invasion
>of Iraq in 2003 and has been subsequently overturned by further
>investigation. See:
>
>"Comprehensive Report of the Special Advisor to the DCI on Iraq's WMD", 30
>September 2004 at http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraq_wmd_2004/.
>
>Your emotional and frequently baseless refutations of disagreeable
>evidence discredits you and your beliefs.  The central issue is quite
>clear, a great number of people, numbering in the tens if not hundreds of
>thousands, are dead today because of fears harboured by an influential
>group of people resident in the United States and propagated to a vastly
>under-informed populace.  If these deaths indeed resulted because those
>fears were well grounded in fact and NO ALTERNATIVE action other than war
>would suffice to resolve them, then and only then can those deaths be
>justified.
>
>The available evidence to date is that those fears were NOT well grounded
>nor were alternative, possibly more effectual, responses seriously
>considered. The evident result is that rather than resolve a problem the
>pre-emptory violence of the United States with respect to Iraq has instead
>precipitated both a human and an international security disaster on a vast
>scale.
>
>Beyond this, the desire to justify the unjustifiable is evidently leading
>the leaders of your adopted country to break the very laws that they were
>sworn to uphold, Individuals facing the consequences of their own
>misguided judgements are replacing the sober consideration of centuries
>laid out in constitutional law with their own momentary and self-serving
>passions.  It is here that the greatest danger lies and it is the wilful
>blindness of its citizens to this discreditable if not actually felonious
>conduct that poses the more pressing danger to the republic.
>
>This leads inevitably to consideration of why then this tragedy was
>permitted to unfold before the eyes and at the hands of a people who pride
>themselves upon their high degree of civil tolerance and fair dealings
>with others.  Persistent denial of contradictory evidence on the basis of
>ideological beliefs is not, in my opinion, a reasonable or fruitful way to
>deal with such difficulties. Nor does this type of behaviour bode well for
>emplacing structures to prevent or at least mitigate the public hysteria
>that led these crimes to be committed in the first instance.  Failure to
>address these issues forthrightly will result in similar future tragedies,
>with perhaps even more dire results.
>
>This is not a liberal/conservative divide, it is essentially a matter of
>life or death.
>
>
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