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On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 10:06:50 -0500, Brice Yokem <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>When there was a draft what did these security loving people do?
>George got into the NG with daddy's help
>Dick became a member of the hippie-movement and prefered love instead of
>war and had other priorities.
>Jeb Bush  ????
>Karl Rove ????
>Condi Rice ?????
>Laura Bush ????
>Tom DeLay ????
>Donald R.  Pilot in Korean-War (not forgetting him)
>
>So, if these people love the security so much, why didn't they fight for
>the security back then?
>Its so easy to keep the costs for a good education high and then offer
>then
>poorer a chance for a good eductation by joining the military.
>That way you always have enough volunteers for a good education that just
>have to join the military to afford it.
>
>I know, Bill Clinton was a draft-dodger. But he's Democrat so that was to
>be expected, right?
>
>Michael
>
>------------------
>
>Are you out of your mind, Michael?  Including people like Laura Bush who
>is not even holding a position in government, did not get drafted because
>she is a woman, and would not have been in combat even if she did join
>up because they did not do that with women back then.
>
>Bill Clinton the draft dodger did more than dodge the draft, he went to
>foreign countries which were hostile to this one and bad-mouthed his
>own country to them.
>
>And peoples reason for not joining up is important, too.  I don't have any
>respect for people who dodged the draft because then just did not want to
>serve their country, but if they did not want to participate in a war we
>did not have permission to win, that makes a difference.


Brice,
I know that females aren't drafted. But did they volunteer for any 
patriotic service instead?

So what were the patriotic reasons of George and Dick??
fear?
Can anything be more important than to defend the country?

I just read that John Ashcroft might have had 7 defferments. That even more 
than Dick had.
I found this about DeLay another great patriot (or so)
http://www.slate.com/id/1002713/

Specifically, Chatterbox wanted to know if there was any truth to a report 
in the Houston Press, a rather emphatically anti-DeLay alternative 
newspaper, about what DeLay said on this subject at the 1988 Republican 
convention in New Orleans, when vice-presidential nominee Dan Quayle was 
under attack for having avoided Vietnam service in the National Guard. (The 
story was repeated in a Molly Ivins profile of DeLay in the May issue of 
Playboy.) Here's what the Houston Press reported:

He and Quayle, DeLay explained to the assembled media in New Orleans, were 
victims of an unusual phenomenon back in the days of the undeclared 
Southeast Asian war. So many minority youths had volunteered for the well-
paying military positions to escape poverty and the ghetto that there was 
literally no room for patriotic folks like himself. Satisfied with the 
pronouncement, which dumbfounded more than a few of his listeners who had 
lived the sixties, DeLay marched off to the convention.

Chatterbox has heard many draft-dodger alibis in his time, but he has never 
heard anyone plead reverse discrimination


So, Please, you, Denys and Shawn can stop calling the Republicans as the 
patriotic party and the democrats as .....
The current top-Republicans never were patriotic when their a.s was on the 
line. Then they found excuses and excuses.

Michael

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