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Greg Stigers <[log in to unmask]>
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Greg Stigers <[log in to unmask]>
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Credit where credit is due. The framer of Massachusetts' Constitution, John 
Adams, was undeniably deeply religious. You can quibble about how religious 
our framers were, and what forms that religious expression took. But 
religious, they were. I don't think that Jefferson would recognize the 
efforts of an ACLU, or the life of its own that his phrase in a letter has 
taken as if he had written in the Constitution. Certainly one town's 
decision that it could have a nativity scene, so long as it did not include 
Mary, Joseph, or baby Jesus, would seem something other than what the 
framers had in mind. What was intended as an idea the religion should be 
freely practiced, as with press and speech, free from intrusion by 
Congressional legislation, has been turned on its head to the point that 
expressions of religious faith are deemed to be best kept as private as 
possible. Press and speech enjoy a freedom that religion expression does 
not.

Bill of Rights
Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or 
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, 
or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to 
petition the government for a redress of grievances.



Have a Happy Boxing Day. And next week, remember to be sensitive to those 
who recognize other, less imperialist calendars.



Greg Stigers



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Glenn Paden" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Iraqi elections


> And organizations like the ACLU that try keep them separate.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Kell [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:49 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Iraqi elections
>
> There is something to be said for separation of church and state.
>
> Jeff

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