Hi Wirt :)
    Technically, we have a General of the Army (5 Stars arranged in a 
Pentagon (go figure hehe)) slot and rank (Designation: GOA).  This is a 
O-11 paygrade as I recall, but we all know about my memory! 

     Note this slot hasn't been filled for some time... tho' there was 
rumors milling around (pun very much intended!) that it was offered to 
Stormin' Norman (awesome ski run on Mt Hood btw!) during the first Gulf 
War ... I never did hear if that was true...     Also, I have been told by 
some that this position is only filled during times of war if then... but 
again haven't been able to find any regs that support that assumption :) 

    And yep... this is way more than you ever wanted to know about the GOA 
:) 

Art "buried in budgetting :) " Bahrs

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John writes:

> I heard a 5 star general interviewed this morning on the radio 
predicting 
>  what will happen if a civilized presence leaves the mideast. 

Just as a technical note, there are no 5 star generals in the military, 
and 
there haven't been since the death of Omar Bradley here in El Paso in the 
early 
1980's. The 5-star rank was created during WWII and hasn't been used 
since.


>  It was ugly 
>  how many regimes he predicted will fall to this very organized radical 
>  fundamentalist group that is committed to terrorism as a political tool 

>  from which to gain power and followers.  This is an aggressive, 
organized 
>  enemy that has been operating very stealthily for many years, possibly 
>  masterminded by OBL (who has been awfully quiet...maybe pushin 
daisies?). 
>  Until we went into Iraq, I don't think the world realized how advanced 
this 
>  organization of terror was.

The insurgency in Iraq is a phenomenon of our own creation. OBL didn't 
create 
it. GWB did. And it will dissipate after we leave, although it may well 
morph 
into all-out sectarian war afterwards.

Wirt Atmar

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