At 05:14 PM 12/1/2005, Denys Beauchemin wrote:
>"Real programmers write their own sort routines."  Is this correct, Brian?

If they enjoy programming for programings sake and developing or 
experimenting with sorting, then YES they do.

If they write programs as part of the attempt to solve some other 
problem, then hopefully NO, they use an existing sort and focus on 
the solution to their own problem.  Of course, a sort is a fairly 
clear cut example for your question.  It would be nice if we could 
re-use the majority of code and build on a pyramid of pre-existing 
work but many things rise to prevent or at least seriously reduce that.


>Denys
>
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>At 02:54 PM 12/1/2005, Bruce Collins wrote:
> >Brian Donaldson wrote:
> >
> >>For years I have said that 4g/l's produce lame brained programmers who
>don't
> >>have to think too much about what they do to produce a result, just let
>the
> >>computer figure it out for you...
> >
> >That's exactly what my professors said when they allowed us to use
> >calculators (instead of slide rules) way back in my second year of
> >engineering.  ;-)
>
>Yes, and as I recall, the next comment was "wait till you see how
>complicated a problem we can have now that the mechanics of
>calculating the solution are simplified".  I think that also applies
>to programming, if the tool takes the bulk of the work required to
>implement, we can solve much more complex problems.
>
>I am a confirmed "real programmer", no sissy 4GL stuff for me!  I do,
>however, see that we would not accomplish all that we want if we
>insist on SPL.
>
>
> >Bruce
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