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Reef Fish <[log in to unmask]>
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SCUBA or ELSE! Diver's forum <[log in to unmask]>
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On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 22:32:49 +0800, Robert Delfs <[log in to unmask]>
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>That is interesting.  I'd be quite happy myself to trade my two
>upgraded Mk20s (no cracks so far, but who wants to play this kind of
>dice game) for a pair of nice new Mk25s.

You should be happy to trade them with the original MK10.

According to the NEDU studies done on regs in the 1970s, there
ain't no diving YOU do as a recreational diver can come anywhere
close to the spec of that reg, and it has a LIFE TIME (or the
reg) warranty, which I had already exercised once over 1,000
dives ago.

>Still no reply to MY email to Scubapro SEAsia's office in Singapore.
>Somehow I'm not surprised.

They are still paying the out-of-court settlements from the
UWATEC Aladin Nitrox computers (of the pre-1996 production)
which had algorithm defects which Uwatec refused to acknowledge
OR recall even after the defects had been proven in court (in
1997) and waited until 5 divers got bent and sued them, and then
FINALLY admitted the DEFECT in 2005, when the lawyer of the
LAST not-yet-settled-out-of-court suits threaten to file a
class-action suit against their parent coporations.

All FIVE suits has now been settled out of court with an
undisclosed amounts of DAMAGES paid, by Uwatec's new parents
of Scubapro, and it's new grand=paranet, Johnson Outdoors.

For details, read "in the news" in

http://www.davidconcannon.com/pages/3/index.htm


>
>robert
>
>On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 20:37:37 -0400, Lee Bell wrote:

After Robert's message below assuring Lee that it was NOT an Urban
Legend as Lee speculated, on something related to his local dive
shop, and said he (Lee) would look into it (as if that would mean
anything different about the announcement of the DEFECT and RECALL!
>
>>Robert Delfs wrote
>>>
>>> It's not a consumer warning, it's a safety bulletin, essentially a
>>> directive to all NOAA divers to discontinue use of the regulator.  They
>>> do this whenever serious problems with equipment come up, but usually
>>> there is already a company recall in effect, which doesn't appear to be
>>> the case here.  This safety bulletin on the real NOAA website, which
>>> I've used before.  (Some of the new rules we're putting in place in
>>> Komodo are based on NOAA codes and practice.) The safety bulletin is
>>> also listed on their index of safety bulletins page.
>>
>>I'm back in S. Florida and will be talking to my local shop tomorrow.

About how you increased the average IQ of both Florida AND Texas
by your return from Texas?

>>Interestingly, ScubaPro no longer shows the Mk20 on their website.

No shit!  Why should they show a defective product that had been
cited by NOAA to have serious problems and are being recalled?

If they hadn't PULLED the MK20 from their website, that would
have been something worth noting as "interesting".

> I like the ability to adjust intermediate pressure from the
>>outside.

Like you can achieve perfect "neutral buoyancy" during an entire
dive without adjusting for air in your BC, by merely shifting
your "breathing pattern"?    ROTFLMAS, Lee!

But do you know WHY?

Like you don't know WHY you could adjust for 5 lbs or DIFFERENCE
in weight/lead with the amount of air your lung can hold?

For Lee's thoroughly debunked theory of his "breathing pattern"
nonsense long before 2005, Lee was STILL spounting it in rec.scuba,
in 2005, arguing against ME, and he was still mouth dancing when
Hugh Huntzinger, who loved to flame me every chance he had,
told Lee how wrong Lee was, by citing some PHYSICS which Lee
could hardly be expected to know or understand.  :-)

The same old Lee.

Do you still have me in your "blocked sender's list"?  Lee hasn't
bragged about it for some time now, probably because I hadn't
posted anything in rec.sduba.* in recent months that was flamed
by anybody, not even by the mental midgets of the Dysfunctional
Gang there (which Lee and Huntzinger are both prominent members
of that Gang).
>>
>>Lee

La Poisson.

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