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Forgot to send to list again....must remember "Reply All"....

Patrick

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Patrick Burleson <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:30:13 -0500
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Questions about finding out the contents of a job file
To: Lars Appel <[log in to unmask]>


Thanks to everyone for their responses. I finally got ahold of the
MANAGER.SYS account information and was able to finally read the
things int he Job Spools. Now I just have to try and figure out the CI
scripting language and see what these things are actually doing.

Patrick


On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:38:17 +0100, Lars Appel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> PS to my public reply...
>
> A few manuals from the big pile of available ones
> that you might find useful when getting started (not
> reading front-to-cover, but maybe skimming the table
> of contents to see what matches your needs)...
>
> - from a task or topic perspective:
>
>   Getting Started as an MPE/iX Programmer
>    (not just a Programmer's Guide, also handy general intro, but old)
>
>   Performing System Operation Tasks
>
>   Performing System Management Tasks
>
>   New Features of MPE/iX: Using the Hierarchical File System
>    (this is when old MPE users faced Posix, HFS, Shell, etc ;-)
>
>   Manager's Guide to MPE/iX Security
>
>   Using Your System The User's Guide
>    (better skip the easytime stuff, poor man's SAM/yast/admintool ;-)
>
> - from a reference perspective
>
>   MPE/iX Documentation Guide
>
>   MPE/iX Commands Reference Manual
>
>   MPE/iX Intrinsics Reference Manual
>    (only for programming, equivalent to system calls in Unix)
>
>   Native Mode Spooler Reference Manual
>
>   System Administrator's Quick Reference Guide
>
> In general, the HP 3000 manuals are quite well done, but
> it sometimes takes a while to find the right one for the
> task at hand. And many times, it is way too much stuff to
> read when one has a task at hand ;-)
>
> Regards, Lars.
>
> PS... Regarding the job spool file... When logged on as
> a user with SM capability, for example manager.sys (there
> is no single superuser like on unix), you do have access
> rights to all files (overriding their security settings
> based on MPE security matrix or POSIX permissions)... but
> there is an exception to this... so called PRIV(ileged)
> files, like TurboIMAGE databases... can only be accessed
> privileged programs (typically from the software package
> that created those files)... to protect against accidental
> damage with EDITOR or similar.
>

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