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Art Bahrs <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi Brian,
    Um... vaporware is pretty much universally accepted as referring to
software that is alluded too but never delivered upon or not yet delivered
upon....

    Having programmed in over a dozen languages using Qedit since back in
1982... and I think it was the first to support special language
constraints with reference to compilers and formatting (remember when we
had to have the line numbering in special columns?)   And Qedit for Windows
has been out for at least 7+ years (I don't remember when it first was
released..we all know about my memory! hehe)
As for HP's Edit/3000 ?  Hmmm... remember it back in the 70's... definitely
was useful when I needed to do that term paper for High School and didn't
want to use my Mom's Royal (circa 1945!) to type it... unfortunately for
me... the system I was on didn't have Prose or Galley (Is that the correct
name for the typesetting software?) but it worked ... and like Microsoft's
Notepad (it is still around on my XP box here at the office) HP's Edit/3000
provides a standard editor that is on every 3000....

Quad has some really nice features as well... anyone else had to load
150,000+ lines of ASCII text and search for a donor's name to prove that
they were included in that mailing??? hehehe

    I have seen Programmer Studio... don't use it... why you ask?  Because
it has never been the standard at any shop I have worked in/at... doesn't
mean it is the Cat's Meow or not... just means it wasn't the standard.  We
use UltraEdit here and I find it really useful and powerful... is it the
best?  Don't know... Does it do the job?  Yep... Is it supported by the
company and therefore in accordance with company policy of using only
supported software?  Yep.

   Remember, part of HIPAA and SOX compliance will require companies being
audited to be able to show compliance with their policies and procedures.
Software compliance is a big stumbling point for alot of sites when it
comes to this... Auditor checks a box or ten ... finds non-supported and/or
illegal software... Auditor creates a "finding" :(

Art "Compliance is a Way of Life not a after thought" Bahrs
P.S. I have submitted a Paper for Interex/HP World this year about Data
Centers and Compliance with HIPAA, SOX and GLB... Please give it thot when
voting for what you want to hear this year :)

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Art Bahrs, CISSP           Information Security          The Regence Group
(503) 553-1425              FAX (503) 553-1453


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Programmer Studio is the best PC editor there is.

Unfortunately, it isn't free. You only get what you pay for.

Once you've used PS you'll never go back to vaporware like Qedit, HP Editor
or QUAD etc...

PS is a great PC editor and lets you edit much more than just Cobol source
code...

Brian Donaldson.


On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:02:27 -0500, Olav Kappert <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

>Hello all:
>
>I hope everyone had a well deserved holiday.
>
>I am looking for a (free) PC based full screen editor (something like
>Qedit) for working with Cobol files.
>
>Does anyone know of one that they would be willing to download to me ?
>
>Olav.
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