"Those people now have money to also buy
products from other countries (including us).  "

Hmmm, then there must be some other explanation for our (U.S.) staggering trade deficit?  :-)

Ray (jump into the OT fray) Shahan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Cummings
> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 8:30 PM
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:           Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Endangered species: US programmers
> 
> I don't get it.  Her we are exporting jobs to get a cheaper hourly wage.
> The cost of the products drop, because we import the goods manufactured
> by the lower wage workers.  The workers in the other countries now have
> money to purchase goods and better their lives.  Their idle time is no
> longer.  That idle time was spent hating the US for the age old (liberal
> fueled) have's vs. have nots.  Those people now have money to also buy
> products from other countries (including us).  Workers here may not be
> making as much as they used to but the goods are now cheaper so we don't
> need to make as much.
> 
> A recent article in the Wall Street Journal cited a huge increase in
> dock workers.  There is actually a shortage of them!  They indicated
> that they are good paying jobs with benefits.  The  jobs have not been
> lost, they are being shifted to other sectors.
> 
> It is like the overtime law recently enacted.  If overtime can be curtailed
> it will cause companies to hire more workers and give someone a job who
> doesn't currently have one.  How can you argue with that?
> 
> Both scenarios (off shoring and overtime) may not be good for some
> individuals
> but it is better for all of us in the long run.  The idea is to spread the
> wealth so all may EARN and live a better life.
> 
> Here is a perfect example of compassionate conservatism.  I would think
> liberals around the world would be rejoicing.  After all, isn't it the
> left who is supposed to be for spreading wealth?
> 
> Oops I forgot, the left just wants some people to work so they can take
> their money and give it to those who don't work (here and abroad).
> 
> By creating jobs around the world, all will earn a living via hard work.
> Something 40% of our population wants to avoid.  They are perfectly happy
> taking hand-out from liberal politicians.
> 
> Tim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brice Yokem [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 5:57 PM
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> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Endangered species: US programmers
> 
> 
> The question I have to ask is where does it stop.
> 
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> 
> Gary -
> 
> I would have to say it stops when the government adopts a reasonable tax
> policy.  Once taxes drop to a reasonable level, the costs associated
> with labor will drop, and the labor will be more affordable.  High taxes
> also put a greater burden on companies forcing them to cut corners on
> costs, which means they look for cheaper labor.  There is a lot more
> to this than just what I have said here, but the problem to me is big
> government.
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