If you let the govenrment decide who gets what, I contend that the current
owners of the large aggregates of capital will have even more of it. These
"owners of large aggregates of capital" have already figured this out.
They know where the money is (seemingly bottomless government
coffers...shall we talk publicly financed sports stadiums?). That's why
there are lobbyists. That's why there's so much pork in government
spending. That's why there are supposed to be limits to campaign
contributions. Like the bankrobber said when asked why he robs
banks...."because that's where the money is".
By the way, what does everybody think of the flu vaccine shortage and our
first taste of socialized "govenment controlled" supply? Do you fit the
"profile" that someone has determined you must fit to qualify for a dose?
John Lee
At 11:43 AM 10/18/04 -0400, Senn, Bruce wrote:
>Not sure I agree with the wisdom of free market forces.
>
>I'd submit that today's free market decides in favor of the owners of
>large aggregates of capital. This "decision" isn't necessarily in the
>interest of most people nor in the interest of "society."
>
>FWIW.
>
>Bruce.
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>Behalf Of John Lee
>Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 11:32 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: OT: Endangered species: US programmers
>
>This is exactly why the government shouldn't be involved. This is best
>left to supply and demand and market forces to determine.
>
>John Lee
>
>
>At 11:52 AM 10/16/04 -0300, Gary Nolan wrote:
>>I agree with Ray. The last company I worked for closed due to
>government
>>action and inaction. The company was a politcal football for years. The
>only
>>time the govement seems to get involved is when there is something in
>it for
>>thier "business buddies". Here in Canada job creation has big govement
>>involvement. In the last few year they have closed down the mining and
>steel
>>industries and replaced them with call center jobs. They have done a
>great
>>job they traided $25-30/ hours jobs for $9.75/ hour.
>>
>>The question I have to ask is where does it stop. If a company is
>trying to
>>pay the lowest possible wage to employees and keep the profits high by
>>selling an expensive product who has the money to buy thier product.
>>Eventually does not the system break down. If people do not have the
>money
>>to buy the products don't the companies go out of business because
>there are
>>no sales.
>>
>>Which comes first the chicken or the egg? The company or the job?
>>
>>
>>Gary
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Craig Lalley" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 4:23 PM
>>Subject: [HP3000-L] OT: Endangered species: US programmers
>>
>>
>>> --- "Shahan, Ray" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> > That's ok by me...what I'm against is that same government granting
>tax
>>> > breaks/incentives to companies that hinders my ability to exercise
>my
>>free
>>> > choices, develop skills, hone my work ethic, and contract with an
>>employer
>>> > eager to hire someone like me. ".
>>>
>>> Wow, an intelligent response, that did not mention Bush, Kerry, Iraq
>or
>>any
>>> name calling.
>>>
>>> Thanks Ray!
>>>
>>> -Craig
>>>
>>>
>>>
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