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Hi Wirt :)
    An excellent site!   Thanks for posting it ... I couldn't remember how
the Manhatten Project started  If I ever knew ... tho' I am sure Dr.
Gilbert Ford mentioned how the U.S. originally started the atomic research
projects that became the Manhatten Project during Astronomy 101 :)

Art "enjoying learning :) " Bahrs
P.S. Anyone know how to create a "source code" style listing of a Crystal
Reports Report?

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Brice writes:

> I think Bill Bennett made an interesting point.  He said FDR
>  approved the Manhattan Project under the false assumption
>  that the Nazi's had a Nuclear program.  This cost a lot of money
>  and didn't make a difference as far as the war against Germany
>  was concerned.

Ordinarily I make a point of not responding to Brice's nonsense, but I find
this one difficult to let go.

Lordy. Where in the hell did you learn your history, Brice?

The American atomic weapons program was *derived* from the German one. The
German/Austrian/Hungarian physicists who emigrated to the United States
before
the start of WWII, and who had worked in varying degrees in that program,
were
so worried about Germany's potential that they convinced Albert Einstein to
write a letter to President Roosevelt in 1939 outlining the dangers. The
end
result of that letter was the explosion of the world's first atomic weapon
in
July, 1945, at Trinity Site, New Mexico, just a hundred miles from where I
sit
now.

In the intervening years, the Allies did everything they could to disrupt
the
German nuclear weapons program through sabotage, air strikes and the
interruption of commercial shipping.

As a primer, please read and memorize:

     http://www.dannen.com/ae-fdr.html

Wirt Atmar

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