At 02:06 PM 9/29/2004, you wrote:
>They are not the only one to belief this and GWB lied before about many
>things. So it could happen.

you keep throwing out this "GWB lied" as though it is some fact, yet it
isn't a fact at all, so either stop it or provide non-Michael Moore links
to it.

>GWB predicts or knows many things that would happen in JFK gets elected. So
>what's wrong with others knowing what will happen if GWB gets elected?
>Question: If you get drafted or your son/daughter will you still support
>GWB? and what if this happens?

You can "what if" all day long, but there isn't a reason for a draft, we
have a huge volunteer army, and plenty of people at NATO and South Korea
that could and should be deployed elsewhere.  Having troops on the Korean
border isn't going to stop a nuclear bomb (thanks to Clinton, they are
close to having it).

As to your story, every lost life is tragic no matter the circumstances,
however it is a volunteer army and it is a war.  We loose a lot of people
in training accidents too, or friendly fire, or any one of a number of things.


>Soldier's dad: Bush blunder cost son his life Rob Zaleski September 29,04
>
>Barbara and John Straseskie of Beaver Dam listen as a joint resolution is
>read in the state Assembly last year honoring their son, Marine Sgt. Kirk
>Straseskie, who died in Iraq while trying to save friends from drowning.
>
>Sixteen months have passed since Kirk Straseskie of Beaver Dam, a 23-year-
>old U.S. Marine infantry sergeant, became the first Wisconsin fatality in
>the Iraq war.
>
>That story, you may recall, received widespread play - partly because it
>brought the war into Wisconsin living rooms, and partly because of the
>heroic nature of his death. A former star athlete at Beaver Dam High
>School, Straseskie drowned after jumping into a canal while attempting to
>rescue a downed helicopter crew.
>
>Since then, 20 other Wisconsin soldiers have died in Iraq, the most recent
>being 21-year-old Marine Cpl. Adrian Soltau of Milwaukee, who was killed in
>an explosion Sept. 13. And while all those deaths were duly noted in the
>media, one gets the sense that many Americans have grown indifferent to
>what's happening in that chaotic region. Either that, or they don't want to
>face the unsettling possibility that, 30 years after Vietnam, we're once
>again trapped in a no-win situation.
>
>John Straseskie, the father of Kirk Straseskie, senses it, too.
>
>"I don't think Bush has a clue what he's doing over there," the 52-year-old
>retired Beaver Dam resident said in a phone interview this week.
>
>And Straseskie suspects things will just continue to deteriorate because,
>he maintains, the president and his advisers can't seem to comprehend one
>simple fact.
>
>"Anytime you have guerrilla-type warfare going on, you kill a lot of
>innocent people - and that just feeds the guerillas," he says. "And there's
>gonna come a time when we're running with our tails tucked between our legs
>just to get out of there."
>
>It should be noted that this isn't the first time Straseskie has voiced his
>opposition to the war. Though he originally supported the idea - like the
>vast majority of Americans, he says, "I believed this stuff about weapons
>of mass destruction and all the other horse bleep" - Straseskie publicly
>criticized Bush shortly after learning of his son's death in May 2003.
>(Another of his sons, Ryan, also was deployed in the Persian Gulf with the
>Wisconsin National Guard, but returned home early this summer.)
>
>"He put our troops over there to finish what his dad didn't do," Straseskie
>said at the time.
>
>Sixteen months later, those feelings appear to have intensified.
>
>He's angry, Straseskie says, "because more and more innocent soldiers are
>dying in a war that we had no business starting in the first place." And
>he's disillusioned, he says, because many Americans apparently agree with
>Bush's contention that the war was worth fighting because we captured
>Saddam Hussein - who, according to the president, was a major terrorist
>threat.
>
>"But how many Iraqis were involved in Sept. 11? None that I'm aware of,"
>Straseskie counters. And yet, he says, "people still buy this stuff."
>
>Having said all that, Straseskie acknowledges there's still a chance the
>United States "could turn this around" and says people shouldn't be
>surprised if the draft is revived and the war is expanded early next year -
>particularly if Bush is re-elected.
>
>But in his own view, there's only one sensible option at this point.
>
>"I think we should get out and let the Iraqis fight their own battles," he
>says.
>
>Besides, "I think if you look at the region as a whole, they don't want
>democracy over there. Not their current leaders anyway. Because if they get
>democracy, they'll lose their power."
>
>Asked what he'd ask Bush if he - not Jim Lehrer - were moderating Thursday
>night's televised debate, Straseskie says, "I'd ask him, 'Don't you think
>you're rather vain and full of bluster when you say that - with all the
>information we have now - we were justified in going into Iraq? Without
>enough allied support to even try to get the job done?' "
>
>But Straseskie says he knows Bush wouldn't answer truthfully - one, because
>he's not about to admit he made such a catastrophic blunder; and two,
>because to admit as much could very well cost him the election.
>
>And, frankly, that's been the toughest thing to accept over the last 16
>months, Straseskie says. The likelihood that his son - and 1,052 other
>Americans - gave his life in a war that in the long run "probably isn't
>going to solve a thing."
>
>Yes, the initial shock of Kirk's death has worn off, Straseskie says.
>
>"But you never really get over it. Especially at holidays and birthdays.
>You look around and realize your son's not there.
>
>"It's like an open sore."
>
>
>
>On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:39:10 -0400, Jim Mc Coy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> >This time, they used a chain email, already known to be an Urban Legend,
>to show that the Bush Admin is going to reinstate the draft..
> >
> >http://216.180.225.12/draft.html
> >
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