Amen brother!
In addition to this, you can get yourself as educated as you want. The
libraries are free for example, I won many awards as a kid for having read
the most books at the local public library during the summer for
example. Other terrific programs are things like Scouting, I'm the
committee chair for our local pack and for a whopping $70 per year, you are
in the scouts, and you learn all sorts of things there, I took the boys
camping and fishing last month and we did all sorts of good stuff, brought
my telescope and taught them about the sky in addition to everything else.
What's the point of sitting around and whining that nobody is teaching
you? Get up off your butt and do it yourself like Art, and many others
have done.
Now granted our schools could be better, but you can thank the dem's and
the teachers union for screwing up most of the ted kennedy penned school
bill. Why are the unions against vouchers? That would let you have your
choice of other schools, but they don't want to do it for some reason. Go
ask them what the problem is, not Bush. Personally I think if the kid did
something that deserved spanking, then a spanking they should get. The
problem with students today is that the system is too mamby pamby and they
get away with murder, in "the good old days" you had a healthy fear and
respect for your teachers and did what you were told. You could also fail
and be held back with no concern to hurting your self esteem.
I got one bad report, just once, and there was no damn way I was ever gonna
let it happen again, and it didn't. You gotta have pride in what you do.
Shawn
At 01:25 PM 9/27/2004, Art Bahrs wrote:
>Hi Michael :)
> Corporal Punishment is a tenet of Catholic school pretty much
>everywhere I am told... But have to take the "Better Half's" word for it...
>since I started school in a private Protestant school... which had corporal
>punishment... My Kindergarten teacher remarked in her Retirement Dinner
>about 8 or so years ago... that she still remembers how my best friend and
>I set and still hold! the record for the fastest trip to the Principal's
>office for swats! Half an hour after the start of the first day of
>kindergarten! 'Course Mike and I have been best friends ever since 1969
>as a result... (yep I be young'un!) I personally think that I got sent to
>the principals office way too much... my Dad thinks not enough ... hehehe
>I switched to a public school in 4th grade... interesting...
>
> And no... my family isn't and wasn't rich.... just practiced the
>"Depression" kind of financial planning that Shawn eluded to earlier... If
>you ain't got the money and it ain't life and death? you ain't got it!
>Dad taught my sister and I the value of a buck through allowances and extra
>jobs and chores if we needed extra money... Dad likes to point out that 50%
>success rate ain't bad when rais'n kids! My sister at best has held a
>MacD's job for a year or two... then back to the government roles...
>
> Remember, the Founding Fathers didn't believe and didn't found the
>country on Education being a right... it was something you earned...
>Secretary of State and Former General Colin Powell started life in New York
>in the Public Schools... in the not so great part of New York... He said
>hard work and family got him thru...
>
> As for college? Yah... it is expensive... I went to a small Christian
>college in Idaho ... and Dad gave me Freshman year paid for to any school
>in the world as my High School graduation gift... He said after that he
>would loan me whatever he could to help me ... but that I would best do
>some "working and earning"! I did... and Thanks to GSL's and a $500
>scholarship... I made it through... 'tho the English Department of NNC does
>consider me to be one of their failures based on my grammar and spelling
>abilities or lack thereof! hehehehe
>
> The elementary and High school level education in America is in
>trouble... but not beyond hope or repair... and alot of people are working
>on it... but the biggest thing I see missing, in my opinion, is the
>teaching of the basics... too much social agenda and not enough math,
>sciences and English... And if we get back to teaching the kids at home
>that education is the most important thing maybe some other things will
>improve.
>
> I don't know about the European schools... but I do know that I pay for
>the local schools in my area of Oregon... even tho' I will never have any
>children attending them... and I don't gripe because the schools provide a
>way for the kids who will run society after I am gone to learn...
>
>Art "just ramblin' thots :) " Bahrs
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> >Shawn you are correct, Herr Baier lives on a planet that I would not
> >even want to visit. :-)
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> >Denys
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>The planet is calles US of A.
>I want to send my kids to school. Remember the program "no kids left
>behind". Seems like all kids where left where we live. No school meets the
>standard and has not for so many years. Tried to put my kids in a private
>school (catholic). First letter I get was that the teachers and principal
>can beat my kids if they think its necessary. I send a letter back for
>permission to beat the teachers and principal whenever I think it is
>needed. They never answered. Wonder why.
>So, I guess we move. Either a bigger city or back to Europe.
>At least the kids there get a free education and not based on the amount of
>money the parents can spend. Even the colleges and universities are
>affordable, unlike in the great USofA.
>Of course, a president that needs $150 billions for Iraq and has no money
>for education thats just what this great country needs.
>So much easier to deal with stupid people. They follow so easy, the don't
>ask critical questions. Plus they make good stupid soldiers that just
>follow orders and never ask "WHY".
>So the few rich and educated can use the majority of un-educated.
>Sounds familiar?
>
>About the finances, ask around the working people how many can afford a
>loss of income for how long before they fall so far behind in payments that
>they start loosing houses. Don't know too many that can do that for more
>then a few months. If you can, count yourself lucky.
>Seems you and the GWB live on the same distant planet and that's why you
>are oh so wrong.
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