Hum, I thought you were going to talk about John Kerry, but then I hear Clinton. These two men are different people. If the only thing you can say against John Kerry is an obscure reference to the Clintons I must assume that you think Kerry is pretty good by himself, and there is nothing negative that you can come up with about him.
By the way, GWB has been President for about 4 years now. At what point does he have to take responsibility for his own actions, or will it still be Bill Clintons fault in the year 3000?
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From: "Norm Matloff" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 3:02 AM
Subject: misplaced faith in Kerry
> To: H-1B/L-1/offshoring e-newsletter
>
> I am hearing from a lot of programmers and engineers who, being
> relatively new to the H-1B and offshoring issues, mistakenly think that
> their only problem is George Bush, and that John Kerry will be the one
> to rescue them. They don't realize that *President* Clinton was just as
> bad on the H-1B issue (offshoring wasn't so much of an issue at that
> time), and *Senator* Clinton is now just as bad on H-1B and offshoring.
> See my postings on Senator Clinton on these issues, especially her tight
> alliance with the Indian software giant Tata Consultancy Services, at
>
> http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/Archive/Hillary4.txt
>
> and the Web links in that file.
>
> There you will also see an article from the Indian press titled,
> "Kerry, Our Ally Against [Offshoring] Backlash."
>
> Here is what Kerry says on his Web page:
>
> John Kerry Will Fight to Keep American Jobs in America:
>
> "Under this Administration, America's middle class has been
> abandoned--its dreams denied, its Main Street interests ignored and
> its mainstream values scorned by a White House that puts privilege
> first," said John Kerry. "Middle class Americans don't ask for
> special favors, they just want basic fairness, and a President who
> fights for that ideal. Next November, we can change all that," Kerry
> continued. "Because in a Kerry Administration, if you are doing your
> part and doing what's right--whether you're a CEO in the corner suite
> or a worker in an office or on the factory floor--you'll have a
> President who honors you, respects your contribution, and who will
> fight for you and your future everyday." Kerry's economic plan to
> get America working and to keep American jobs at home includes:
> Revive American Manufacturing; Provide Tax Relief to Middle Class
> Families; Prepare Americans for 21st Century Jobs by Opening the
> Doors of College for All; Making Corporate America Live by America's
> Values; Restore Fiscal Discipline to Washington; Expand Economic
> Opportunity for Women.
>
> That heading sounds great--"John Kerry Will Fight to Keep American Jobs
> in America." But then look at what it actually SAYS: "Revive American
> Manufacturing; Provide Tax Relief to Middle Class Families; Prepare
> Americans for 21st Century Jobs by Opening the Doors of College for All;
> Making Corporate America Live by America's Values; Restore Fiscal
> Discipline to Washington; Expand Economic Opportunity for Women."
> Do you see anything about offshoring there? No, it's the usual list
> of economic stimulus methods.
>
> Yes, Kerry has his "Benedict Arnold" rhetoric, but his "remedies" are
> only little bandaids. He would, for example, require U.S. firms to give
> three months warning before offshoring jobs. That provides no lasting
> relief to the victims. His other proposals are similarly quite weak, I
> believe deliberately so.
>
> The one exception is a vague statement by Kerry that he would support a
> ban on offshoring work on federal contracts. This sounds good until you
> see what is happening to S.2094, introduced by Sen. Dodd on the same
> topic. I'm told that one provision is that such a ban could not be
> implemented until the Sec. of Commerce proved that it would not hurt the
> economy. Since such a proposition is impossible to prove (or disprove),
> there would be no ban. As usual, read the fine print...I suspect that
> Kerry would put in a "ban" with some loopholes that would make the ban
> useless or nearly so.
>
> And remember this KEY POINT: The Dodd bill, even if implemented, would
> merely require the work to be done in the U.S.--it would NOT require the
> work to be done by Americans. Remember, Tata Consultancy Services
> admits that virtually all of its technical workers in the U.S. are
> here on H-1B and L-1 visas. So the government could contract with TCS
> (as the State of Indiana did) and still not have any American workers on
> the project, even though the work would be done in the U.S.
>
> There has been NOTHING from Kerry on H-1B and L-1. By contrast, Edwards
> did make some valuable statements in that regard.
>
> If after reading all this you still have hope for Kerry, just read the
> article enclosed below, and see who his big donors are in northern
> California. Right away one notices several big venture capital firms.
> If you recall, there have been several articles in the press recently
> reporting that the VCs are vigorously coercing firms they fund to
> offshore their work. Do you REALLY think that Kerry is going to bite
> the hand that feeds him?
>
> Another big Kerry donor is Faraj Aalaei, CEO of Centillium
> Communications. The Dept. of Labor Web page shows that they hire lots
> of H-1Bs, most of them at wages well below the median for the Bay Area.
> The firm's own Web page says, "We are not only looking for people to
> staff our Fremont, CA headquarters, but we're also staffing up our
> remote design centers and sales offices across the US and
> internationally!" (Exclamation mark in the original.) How can Kerry
> ignore donors like this? He wouldn't.
>
> A recent Washington Post story made the same point. The article was
> appropriately headlined, "Kerry Donors Include 'Benedict Arnolds'"
>
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=
> A6884-2004Feb25¬Found=true). Kerry's "clarification" in the article
> was especially telling:
>
> Then he sought to clarify his position: "What I've said is not
> that people don't have the right to go overseas and form a company
> if they want to avoid the tax. I don't believe the American taxpayer
> ought to be giving them a benefit. That's what I object to. I don't
> object to global commerce. I don't object to companies deciding
> they want to compete somewhere else.''
>
> So there you are.
>
> Norm
>
> http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/03/23/MNGR15PL4V1.DTL
>
> Californians betting big on Sen. Kerry
> Dozens from state have pledged to raise $50,000 for Democrat
>
> Edward Epstein, Chronicle Washington Bureau
> Tuesday, March 23, 2004
> San Francisco Chronicle
>
> Washington -- Dozens of Californians, including San Francisco Mayor
> Gavin Newsom's father, are among the fund-raisers who have pledged to
> gather at least $50,000 for Sen. John Kerry's presidential campaign
> and turned the state into the main source of big contributors for the
> Democratic Party's likely nominee.
>
> Emulating President Bush's practice of releasing the names of
> Republican "rangers'' and "pioneers'' who have persuaded business
> associates, friends and relatives to contribute large sums of money to
> the president's re-election campaign, Kerry released the names of some
> of his big fund-raisers on Monday. These people solicit and gather
> contributions from individuals who each can give a maximum of $2,000
> to the Kerry effort.
>
> In all, Kerry's campaign has brought in more than $20 million in
> recent months and plans to raise about $10 million Thursday night for
> the candidate and the party at a big fund-raiser in Washington
> featuring former Presidents Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter.
>
> Kerry has found his largest number of deep-pocketed donors in
> California -- repeating the success of Democrats Clinton in 1992 and
> 1996 and Al Gore in 2000. Twenty-one individuals from the liberal and
> heavily Democratic Bay Area have pledged to raise at least $100,000
> and 13 others have committed to gathering at least $50,000, according
> to a report released by the Kerry campaign.
>
> "Northern California has always been a cash register for presidential
> campaigns. It's not any different this year,'' said Richard Rubin, a
> lawyer and lobbyist from Tiburon, who chairs Kerry's Bay Area finance
> steering committee. "People know they can rely on big contributions
> here.''
>
> The Kerry campaign listed 180 people across the country who have
> contributed more than $50,000. The Democrat's fund-raising efforts so
> far lag well behind those of Bush, who has raised $158.8 million for
> the 2004 campaign through the end of January. Since then, new
> contributions have bumped the president's estimate to at least $170
> million.
>
> Through the January period, Kerry raised $41.3 million, including a
> loan he made to his campaign of $6.4 million, but almost all the money
> was spent during the primaries, when the Massachusetts senator was
> competing against several other Democratic candidates.
>
> Among those raising at least $50,000 in Northern California is William
> Newsom, a former state appeals court judge whose son, Gavin Newsom,
> took office as San Francisco mayor in January. The elder Newsom is a
> longtime Kerry friend.
>
> Trial lawyers are among Kerry's most generous donors, as they have
> been for Democrats for years. Bush and other Republicans have
> championed legislation that would limit judgments in many civil
> lawsuits.
>
> Lawyers tied to high-tech firms also are among the biggest donors to
> Kerry's campaign.
>
> Among the Northern California attorneys who are major Kerry donors are
> Judy Droz Keyes of Morrison & Foerster in San Francisco; John Roos of
> Wilson, Soncini, Goodrich & Rosati in Palo Alto; Robert Lieff of
> Lieff, Cabraser, Heimann & Bernstein in San Francisco; Arnold Laub, a
> San Francisco personal injury attorney; and William Orrick of
> Coblentz, Patch, Duffy & Bass in San Francisco.
>
> Silicon Valley, a bastion of support for Clinton and Gore, has become
> a major source of cash for Kerry as well. In addition to such big
> donors as John and Sue Dean and Aaron Gershenberg of Silicon Valley
> Bank, the campaign has released a list of hundreds of high-tech
> backers.
>
> In his bid to raise at least $80 million more before the Democratic
> convention starts in Boston on July 26, Kerry plans to intensify his
> efforts in the Bay Area. A $1,000-a-ticket buffet and reception is
> scheduled Monday at the St. Francis Hotel in San Francisco to help him
> kick off a 20-city fund- raising blitz. Rubin said the goal is to get
> 700 people to attend. Additional supporters who have pledged to raise
> $100,000 have signed up to sponsor the event and aren't included on
> the list that Kerry's campaign released, Rubin said.
>
> Kerry and Bush have chosen not to accept federal matching funds for
> the primary season -- which means they are not limited in how much
> they can raise and spend before their parties' respective nominating
> conventions. Both men have said they will accept federal matching
> funds for the general election campaign.
>
> While Kerry listed 180 people who have brought in at least $50,000,
> the Bush campaign now has 455 "rangers,'' who have bundled at least
> $200,000 in contributions, and "pioneers'' who each have solicited and
> gathered $100,000 in contributions.
>
> Bush's campaign has found more of its bundlers in the president's home
> state of Texas than in California.
>
> In the Bay Area, the Bush campaign has identified four "rangers.''
> These are Katherine E. Boyd, a Hillsborough interior designer who is a
> longtime Republican donor; Steven Burd, chairman and chief executive
> of Safeway Inc.; John Tsu of Milbrae, a John F. Kennedy University
> regent; and Slayton Capital chief executive Gregory Slayton, who leads
> the Republican campaign's Silicon Valley effort.
>
> Seven other people have reached the "pioneer'' level for Bush from the
> Bay Area.
>
> But most of the president's major California support comes from the
> Los Angeles-Orange County area, mainly from industrialists, developers
> and such entertainment industry executives as Warners Brothers
> producer Jerry Weintraub.
>
> Kerry draws a lot of his Southern California support from Hollywood,
> where his bundlers include actor Dennis Hopper, Kenny "Babyface''
> Edmonds, Paramount Pictures chairwoman Sherry Lansing and director
> William Friedkin.
> _________________________________________________________________
>
> CALIFORNIA'S CAMPAIGN CASH MACHINE
>
> Californians are active fund-raisers for the presidential campaigns of
> Republican incumbent George W. Bush and Democratic challenger John
> Kerry. Here is a look at the names of some of the Bay Area residents
> helping to raise large sums for the two candidates:
>
> Kerry fund-raisers
>
> -- Twenty-one Bay Area residents have pledged to raise more than $100,
> 000 for Kerry's campaign:
>
> Suzie Tompkins Buell and Mark Buell, co-founders of Esprit Inc., San
> Francisco
>
> John and Sue Dean of Silicon Valley Bank
>
> Eileen and John Donahoe of Portola Valley
>
> Judy Droz Keyes, attorney at Morrison & Foerster in San Francisco
>
> Stephanie Elkins, Palo Alto
>
> Mark Gorenberg, partner at Hummer Winblad Venture Partners, San
> Francisco
>
> Aaron Gershenberg of Silicon Valley Bank
>
> Doug Hickey of Hummer Winblad
>
> Michelle Kraus, CEO of Digital Campaigns in Palo Alto
>
> Wade and Tamsin Randlett of Dashboard Technology, a political
> Web-based consultancy
>
> John and Susie Roos, Palo Alto
>
> David and Barbara Roux of Silver Lake Venture Partners in Silicon
> Valley
>
> Richard Rubin, a lawyer and lobbyist from Tiburon
>
> Tom Steyer, managing director of Farallon Capital in San Francisco
>
> Mike Thorsnes, a San Diego attorney with a San Francisco home.
>
> -- Thirteen others have pledged to raise at least $50,000. They are:
>
> Faraj Aalaei, CEO of Centillium Communications in Fremont
>
> Chris Larsen, CEO of E-Loan in Pleasanton
>
> Arnold Laub, lawyer, and Isabelle Laub, San Francisco
>
> Robert Lieff of Lieff, Cabraser Heimann & Bernstein in San Francisco
> and Carole Lieff
>
> William Newsom, retired judge, San Francisco
>
> William Orrick of Coblentz, Patch, Duffy & Bass, San Francisco
>
> Clint Reilly, investor and political consultant, and his wife, Janet
>
> Barbara Schraeger, Sausalito
>
> Jeff Soukup, CFO of Planetout.com, San Francisco
>
> Larry Stone, Santa Clara County assessor.
>
> Bush fund-raisers
>
> -- Four Bay Area residents are listed as Bush campaign "rangers'' --
> fund-raisers who have pledged to gather at least $200,000 for the
> president's re-election effort. They are:
>
> Katherine Boyd., interior designer, Hillsborough
>
> Steven Burd, chairman and CEO of Safeway Inc., Pleasanton
>
> Gregory Slayton, CEO of Slayton Capital, Palo Alto, and chairman of
> the Bush Silicon Valley campaign
>
> John Tsu of Milbrae, a regent at JFK University, Pleasant Hill
>
> -- Seven others are "pioneers'' who have pledged to raise at least
> $100, 000. They are:
>
> Carole Bionda of Nova Group Inc., Napa
>
> Kristen Hueter, political consultant, San Francisco
>
> Stephen Kass, former CEO, Meris Laboratories, San Jose
>
> E. Floyd Kvamme, former partner, Kleiner, Perkins, Caufield & Byers,
> Menlo Park
>
> Howard Leach, U.S. ambassador to France, San Francisco
>
> Bill Pauli, owners, Braren Pauli Winery, Mendocino County
>
> Thomas Stephenson, general partner, Sequoia Capital, Menlo Park
>
> Source: Kerry and Bush campaigns
>
> E-mail Edward Epstein at [log in to unmask]
>
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