On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:22:29 -0500, Jeff Kell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>Reef Fish wrote:
>> Jeff,
>>
>> I must formally ask you to send a copy of my post asking Chuck Hopf
>> (Co-Manager) to reveal the identity of the Robert Lung forger, for
>> REASONS I detailed, and ask for Chuck's explanation of WHY he chooses
>> to conceal the identity of said Robert Lung.
>
>All I can tell of "Robert Lung" from the archives is that he subscribed
>as [log in to unmask]
Obviously. Otherwise this forger would NOT be able to post with
that email address in scuba-SE.
I KNOW definitely that Chuck Hopf and another Scuba-SE member KNOW
the identity of this forger because the forger had bragged to them
about his act because he knew those two had crossed-swords with me
in the past.
>I presume the post you want is as follows:
Yes, except for the garbled paragraph of Lee's quotes.
Thanks. Now Chuck will have stretch ones imagination to say that
he hadn't read his "boss"/superior Jeff-Kell's post in which
my post was shown in full. :^)
-- Bob.
>
>> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 09:03:17 -0500 Reply-To: SCUBA or
>> ELSE! Diver's forum <[log in to unmask]> Sender: SCUBA or
>> ELSE! Diver's forum <[log in to unmask]> From: Reef Fish
>> <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Libelous Anonymity
>> (was: Re: Criticism of rec.scuba)
>>
>> On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 21:31:25 +0800, Bjorn Vang Jensen
>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> Lee Bell wrote: > >>It was a criticism of others in a forum that
>>> they do >> not share. The right to free speech does not include the
>>> right to do >> it anonymously. > >Where on earth did you learn THAT
>>> ? I can think of dozens of examples >where a person's anonymity is
>>> preserved by law, in order to protect >that person's other civil
>>> rights while still allowing free speech.
>>
>> This brings up yet another interesting issue in which I am, once
>> again, Lee Bell's target in what he posted about what I said about
>> Ron Lee (which I will say it anytime given the same circumstances
>> which Lee Bell didn't report).
>>
>> But Lee chose to FORWARD to Scuba-SE not what *I* wrote, but Ron
>> Lee's post which had this misattribution:
>>
>> *> [log in to unmask] (Robert Lung) wrote:
>>
>> This Robert Lung had posted his derogatory remarks (mostly assholes)
>> about me in scuba-SE several times.
>>
>> When Chuck (our co-Manager of Scuba-SE) who KNOWS the identity of
>> Robert Lung supposed told him not to do it in Scuba-SE anymore,
>> Robert Lung sent me PRIVATE EMAIL to carry out his same cowardly act,
>> which I called it what it was: "Chicken Shit".
>>
>> I was about to let the matter drop, when this RObert Lung reared its
>> ugly head in REC.SCUBA, and Lee Bell chose to forward this FORGER's
>> name, in citing what I posted, as if it's Lee's deliberate attempt to
>> sew the seed (in the minds of the rec.scubans) that Reef Fish (me)
>> and the dispicable FORGER is one and the same, or that I make posts
>> with forged names.
>>
>> I think, given all that has transpired, that Chuck Hopf should reveal
>> WHO this Chicken Shit "Robert Lung" is.
>>
>> He is (obviously) a long-time member of the Scuba-L/SE lists, though
>> his rarely posts in Scuba-SE now.
>>
>> He uses that cloak maliously to attack me in Scuba-SE, in my private
>> e-mail, and now in rec.scuba. As such, there is NO REASON why the
>> anonymity of said poster should be, or is, protected by law.
>>
>> So Chuck Hopf, as a List Manager, it is my opinion that you SHOULD
>> reveal who Robert Lung is, so that he can start using OHTER forged
>> names for his cowardly acts, and would NOT (the next time) brag about
>> his act to YOU, and to another Scuba-SE list member.
>>
>> I have already BENT BACKWARDS (after his personal email to me in the
>> name of Robert Lung) that I wasn't going to pursue the matter any
>> further after his email offense -- until NOW!
>>
>> I already already found out (from Yahoo) that his identity would be
>> revealed to me only under court subpoena, and I have already
>> contacted a lawyer who can make a case for such.
>>
>> So, spare us of all this CHICKEN SHIT anonymity in personal attack,
>> libel, infrigement of privacy in harrassement, and public stalking in
>> Scuba-SE and rec.scuba (and who knows where else?).
>>
>> If you feel Mr. Robert Lung's identity should NOT be revealed, I very
>> much like to know WHY!
>>
>> -- Bob.
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