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and with how many people in the developed world have you spoken?

All of them? then you missed me

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On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 09:59:27 -0500, Tim Cummings
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><snip>
>Which countries in the Developed world are envious of the US.
>
>All of them!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Richard Barker [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 12:49 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Re: Rules for being a republican
>
>
>"No Denys was correct since he was speaking about the US and not a
>Socialist country."
>
>The US has a welfare system, no where near as good as the ones in Europe,
>but still you have one.  This is a way of stopping people who aren't as
>fortunate as yourself from basically dying on the street.  This is a way of
>distributing wealth, as richer people will not be entitled to welfare and
>generally richer people are taxed more(even with a fixed percentage!!).  I
>presume you must have other forms of state funding.
>
>In Europe we do not redistribute wealth through any other manner than this.
>
>So you don't think anyone who wasn't born into wealth, should get any
>financial help at all, they should just stay poor, uneducated and
unhealthy.
>You guys would have loved the 14th century.
>
>"It really is a shame that those who wish to live under one system cannot
>stand the thought of someone else living under another, particularly if
>those using the other system are more successfull. But, as the very core
>of socialism is founded in class envy, I guess it is not suprising that
>socialist's insist that everyone must live as they dictate."
>
>Hmmm, coming from the country that invaded Vietnam and blocks trade with
>Cuba because they chose to be communist, is a bit rich.  I don't quite see
>where you get this ill informed paranoia from, but in what way is America's
>'system' more successful than Europe's.  Which countries in the Developed
>world are envious of the US.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chuck Ryan [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: 02 February 2004 17:56
>To: Richard Barker; [log in to unmask]
>Subject: RE: Re: OT: Re: Rules for being a republican
>
>
>> Actually taxes are meant to redistribute wealth, whether you
>> agree that is correct or not is another matter, but it is the
>> case.
>
>No Denys was correct since he was speaking about the US and not a
>Socialist country.
>
>As a socialist you obviously believe that it is your goverments role to
>redistribute the wealth from those that have earned it to those that
>have not.
>
>In the US, our governments role was clearly defined in the constitution
>and wealth redistribution was most definitely not included. It is only
>with the invasion of European socialism that our country's founding
>principles, of personal responsibility and self respect, were replaced
>by 'entitlement think' that the concept of wealth redistribution reared
>its ugly head.
>
>Now the liberal's infesting government and the court system have made
>even the suggestion that someone needs to work for a living a hate
>crime.
>
>It really is a shame that those who wish to live under one system cannot
>stand the thought of someone else living under another, particularly if
>those using the other system are more successfull. But, as the very core
>of socialism is founded in class envy, I guess it is not suprising that
>socialist's insist that everyone must live as they dictate.
>
>
>Comments are my own, not my employer's... Etc.
>
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