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Which countries in the Developed world are envious of the US.

All of them!

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Barker [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 12:49 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Re: Rules for being a republican


"No Denys was correct since he was speaking about the US and not a
Socialist country."

The US has a welfare system, no where near as good as the ones in Europe,
but still you have one.  This is a way of stopping people who aren't as
fortunate as yourself from basically dying on the street.  This is a way of
distributing wealth, as richer people will not be entitled to welfare and
generally richer people are taxed more(even with a fixed percentage!!).  I
presume you must have other forms of state funding.

In Europe we do not redistribute wealth through any other manner than this.

So you don't think anyone who wasn't born into wealth, should get any
financial help at all, they should just stay poor, uneducated and unhealthy.
You guys would have loved the 14th century.

"It really is a shame that those who wish to live under one system cannot
stand the thought of someone else living under another, particularly if
those using the other system are more successfull. But, as the very core
of socialism is founded in class envy, I guess it is not suprising that
socialist's insist that everyone must live as they dictate."

Hmmm, coming from the country that invaded Vietnam and blocks trade with
Cuba because they chose to be communist, is a bit rich.  I don't quite see
where you get this ill informed paranoia from, but in what way is America's
'system' more successful than Europe's.  Which countries in the Developed
world are envious of the US.


-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Ryan [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 02 February 2004 17:56
To: Richard Barker; [log in to unmask]
Subject: RE: Re: OT: Re: Rules for being a republican


> Actually taxes are meant to redistribute wealth, whether you
> agree that is correct or not is another matter, but it is the
> case.

No Denys was correct since he was speaking about the US and not a
Socialist country.

As a socialist you obviously believe that it is your goverments role to
redistribute the wealth from those that have earned it to those that
have not.

In the US, our governments role was clearly defined in the constitution
and wealth redistribution was most definitely not included. It is only
with the invasion of European socialism that our country's founding
principles, of personal responsibility and self respect, were replaced
by 'entitlement think' that the concept of wealth redistribution reared
its ugly head.

Now the liberal's infesting government and the court system have made
even the suggestion that someone needs to work for a living a hate
crime.

It really is a shame that those who wish to live under one system cannot
stand the thought of someone else living under another, particularly if
those using the other system are more successfull. But, as the very core
of socialism is founded in class envy, I guess it is not suprising that
socialist's insist that everyone must live as they dictate.


Comments are my own, not my employer's... Etc.

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