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This is going to set a record for OT responses.

John Lee




At 12:35 AM 1/28/04 -0600, Roshan Shah wrote:
> Well, let the scapegoat answer... The posting is not a sales pitch (
>And I did not post it here in 3000-L anyway) but whether anyone likes
>it or not, HP is adding HP3000 resources in India and does that bother
>me.. Not at all.. Does it bother others ? Well, I don't know and I
>don't care because it's HP's decision and not mine..
>
>
>Well, its fine if someone out of frustration decides to shoot and
>accidently its me here this time..and I have no issues because one
>cannot hide from truth.
>Many a times it so happens that you just flip out on wrong object
>because you don't have any control on the decision maker..
>
>Although, I could point out at couple of posts of the frustration of
>the poster, I don't think it would be right on my part.
>
>Now let me get this very straight as far as Indian workers are
>concerned.
>
>1) Whether Indian workers work for $100K or $25/hr, its their choice
>and if any American wants to work in India at these rates and putting
>as much effort, they would be welcome.. What is wrong in working hard
>and working at lower price ? Don't American Companies or as a matter
>of fact companies worldwide market the same product at different price
>?
>
>Then same would apply to Computer Books that are sold for $50 in US
>but sold at $5(Equivalent) in India
>
>2) Most important, Please understand that Indians have given a lot in
>terms of Culture, integrity to America and rest of the world..  Pardon
>me to use this word that American Culture is an "Animal Culture" who
>don't care for kids, their future, parents separated, drugs, and all
>bad things...
>
>3) Indians in US have been working at lower wage but still live a
>better life because we have a tendency to Save and others are
>jealous.. Believe it or not but this is a fact.
>
>I won't be surprised if American Armed forces start giving Green Cards
>to Indians to join their fight in Iraq because they just can't afford
>to lose a soldier a day or week.  Now that's military outsourcing..
>and I'm sure when that happens ..no one will object like what you keep
>doing here.
>
>This shows lot of immaturity.. what an insane person can do is just
>shout.. make noises.. if you have to do something... pls attack the
>decision maker and not the end result.
>
>Does anyone ever know why Outsourcing is happening ? Will it benefit
>America ? I'm sure you have the answer already but just few lazy
>people who don't want to put efforts, be competitive just can do
>nothing but start jumping at every job loss...
>
>That's all I want to say at this juncture..
>
>Finally Ray wrote about Sales Pitch.. and partly he is true but if you
>look carefully, I always want to see that the $5billion global HP3000
>Migration Opportunity trickles down to people who understand the
>technology in any part of the world.. I did write that it would be a
>good idea if Sr. HP3000 Professionals can unite and bring out a single
>face for tapping HP3000 Migrations but noone liked it.. Whose benefit
>I was saying that for ?
>
>If that does not happen, again it will happen that Companies will get
>contracts, people will work and after the migrations all HP3000
>Resource scrap value will be ZERO.
>
>Concluding remarks : I posted a HP3000 gig in Boston(Both in
>3kMigration Group as well as 3000-L  - why did not anyone object at
>that time ? Only when jobs move to India you have a problem.. fine..
>change things if you can...
>
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