Gee, I suppose we have the courts to thank for standing up for freedom once
again.
I suppose tightrope walking without a net is quite thrilling, but keeping
the performance going in the middle of the rope as circus management saws
through the end is just lunacy.
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Barnes [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:57 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] More IT outsourcing woes
Requirements of residence to be a city employee is a thing of the past. In
the Phx-metro area that hasn't been a requirement for some 20 years. I
believe law suits were filed years ago, which ended this practice.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gates, Scott [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:37 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] More IT outsourcing woes
There is just something 'SO WRONG' about a state government outsourcing to a
foreign contractors. In MOST cities I've lived, city jobs have
residence
requirements; e.g. you cannot be a cop, fireman, or park maintenance person
without moving into town. Why can't we get a state law like that? Face it,
by employing state residents, they get to take SOME of the money back in
taxes. And those people BUY things in the state, which generates more
taxes; they own property---more tax money back. Sure, they cost
state/local services, but if they're unemployed, they cost EVEN MORE in
state services, without paying back in, or they move away (possible to
India, where their job went).
At one time, the unemployment hotline in New Jersey was answered in India.
There is something VERY twisted about being told to "Get a Job!" by someone
who makes less than the state pays in unemployment benefits. Luckily, the
NJ state legislature agreed, ordering the NJ Job Line to mend its ways.
If we wish to continue the outsourcing madness, why don't we outsource the
U.S. Military? Train Indian, Chinese, and Russian recruits on U.S. designed
equipment (manufactured in Mexico with parts made in the Philippines and
southeast Asia, of course) then turn the job of protecting our borders over
to them? They would certainly be cheaper in the short run. In the long run
though, Hindi, Mandarin, and Russian would be recommended languages in our
schools, because our children would be moving THERE to do menial labor so
they could send money back to us, their poor families. WE won't qualify for
work visas; we don't speak the language.
-----Original Message-----
From: Shahan, Ray [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:08 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] More IT outsourcing woes
Geez, I'll just never figure these d_mn computers out!!
Here's a another try:
http://www.techsunite.org/
Ray Shahan
"There is so much good in the worst of us,
and so much bad in the best of us,
that it behooves none of us
to talk about the rest of us"
--Robert Louis Stevenson?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Hirsch [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:43 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] More IT outsourcing woes
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> That looks like a link to a message in a Hotmail message box, not a
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shahan, Ray" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:28 AM
> Subject: [HP3000-L] More IT outsourcing woes
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> > "There is so much good in the worst of us,
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