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Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:17:47 -0600
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Adam Dorritie wrote:
> "Erik Vistica" (Responding to Yosef) writes:
>
>>>/RANT
>>>However, what really got me to respond was the quote from Leviticus. Let
>>
> me
>
>>>start by saying the quote is correct. However this is one of a multitude
>>
> of
>
>>>things the Bible forbids. Why did you choose to jump on this one
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> passage?
>
>>Because that was the topic of discussion. Would anyone have read it if I
>>  simply cut/paste the entire book of Leviticus?
>>
>>I never said I was morally superior. I sin too. I simply pointed out
>>what God says about this particular topic.
>>
>>I'm not sure how quoting the bible is clubbing and beating anyone. I
>>said nothing vengeful.
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> Erik,
>
>
>
> I have a question.  I have to provide 24x7 emergency coverage for my
> customers.. Do I have to hire someone to kill me if I'm called in on the
> Sabbath? Can you suggest a service provider?  Obviously, they'd have to wait
> a day to do the job-- but I'll understand.
>
>
>
> Exodus 35:2  "Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there
> shall be to you an holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth
> work therein shall be put to death."
>
>
>
> One other thing.  My sister has a tattoo.  What is the penalty for this?
>
>
>
> Leviticus 19:28  "Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead,
> nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD."

Are these serious questions looking for the best Godly answer I can
muster given my current understanding or are you just being contentious?
(Any answer would have more bible quotes, oops, I didn't cut/paste the
entire bible that won't fly)

> It has always amazed me how people who want to revile and deny justice to
> others think immediately of God when they want to justify their actions.

I didn't deny justice. I simply told you what God says about that issue.

> Did I say "amazed", I guess I should have said "disgusted"  Yosef's
> suggestion is, I believe, that you read the Bible in its totality (yes, I
> know its tempting just to skim to the sexy parts) and seek to understand the
> Word of the God that you profess to follow, rather than just memorizing a
> few of the "words of God".

I have read it in its totality. I need to read it again, and again. You
mis-understand. Thank God that we don't get what we deserve. But we
still deserve death for our actions.


> Almost any point can be proven by excerpting selectively from the Bible.
> Only in its totality and with reflection can the Bible be understood and
> only with tolerance and understanding can its teachings be followed.

Telling you what the bible says about a subject is *not* being intolerant.

You seem to be saying that if I am not perfect, then I can never tell
anyone what the right thing is to do in any situation. Therefore you
cannot tell me either. This is absurd. All have sinned and fall short of
the glory of God (me too) but we are our brother's keeper. We are to
help correct each other and point each other to God.

>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> Chapman: Trouble at mill.
> Cleveland: Oh no - what kind of trouble?
> Chapman: One on't cross beams gone owt askew on treadle.
> Cleveland: Pardon?
> Chapman: One on't cross beams gone owt askew on treadle.
> Cleveland: I don't understand what you're saying.
> Chapman: [slightly irritatedly and with exaggeratedly clear accent] One of
> the cross beams has gone out askew on the treadle.
> Cleveland: Well what on earth does that mean?
> Chapman: *I* don't know - Mr Wentworth just told me to come in here and say
> that there was trouble at the mill, that's all - I didn't expect a kind of
> Spanish Inquisition.
>
> [JARRING CHORD]
>
> [The door flies open and Cardinal Ximinez of Spain enters, flanked by two
> junior cardinals. Cardinal Biggles has goggles pushed over his forehead.
> Cardinal Fang is just Cardinal Fang]
>
> Ximinez: NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is
> surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are
> fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are
> fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion
> to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our
> weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again.
>
> [The Inquisition exits]
>
> M. Python
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>
>

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