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While such a sign would be 'inappropriate and rude', but should be no less
protected by the First Amendment.  Being the President(former in this case),
he's a valid target for public statements, whether political, or personal
ridicule as in Brice's example.

Notice I capitalize First Amendment. Why?  Besides being a proper noun, the
First Amendment is Sacred, like the Bible.  The Bill of Rights was intended
to be a line that the government shall not cross, in my humble opinion.
(There are, of course, other uncrossable lines in the Bill of Rights, but
that would be further OFF TOPIC)

The First Amendment holds that our government shall not have the authority
to govern our speech.  It does not control the press. It cannot prevent us
from gathering together to speak freely, nor prevent us from handing it a
list of demands.  It does not establish 'zones' where Free Speech can be
exercised, though honoring private property does not seem an unreasonable
limitation, so long as the property is truly "Private" and not commercial
property with public access.

If holding up a sign that states "I think the President is just plain
WRONG!" does not count as Free Speech, Free Press, and Peaceable Assembly,
what does?  If it's in the Mr. Bush's eye-sight and he wishes to come over
and debate the issue, I certainly won't stop him. It's within his First
Amendment Right to try to convince me or confuse me.


It's FRIDAY!  Have a happy weekend.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brice Yokem [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 4:43 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [HP3000-L] OT: Freedom/Free Speach/Democracy in the US of A


I can't help but wonder if Mr Bursey held up a sign to the effect of 'Keep
it in your pants, Bill' when President Clinton came to town?

Would you, Mr Baier, be making as big a deal of that, if it had happened?

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