On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 07:19 AM, Connie Sellitto wrote:

> My thoughts...
>
>>
>> Fred quotes:
>>
>>>   > "As to Jesus of Nazareth...I think the system of Morals and his
>>>   > Religion, as
>>>   > he left them to us, the best the World ever saw or is likely to
>>> see;
>>>   > but I
>>>   > apprehend it has received various corrupting Changes, and I
>>> have, with
>>>   > most of the present Dissenters in England, some doubts as to his
>>>   > divinity."
>>>   > --Benjamin Franklin
>>
>>
>> Erik quotes in response:
>>
>>>  Acts 4
>>>   10   Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel,
>>> that by
>>>   the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God
>>> raised
>>>   from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you
>>> whole.
>>>   11   This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders,
>>> which is
>>>   become the head of the corner.
>>>   12   Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none
>>> other
>>>   name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
>>>   -- Simon Peter speaking to Annas the high priest, and Caiaphas, and
>>>   John, and Alexander, and as many as were of the kindred of the high
>>>   priest, were gathered together at Jerusalem.
>>
>>
>> To which I might add:
>>
>> "Man once surrendering his reason [to religious influence], has no
>> remaining
>> guard against absurdities the most monstrous, and like a ship without
>> rudder,
>> is the sport of every wind."
>>
>> -Thomas Jefferson to James Smith, 1822.
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Wirt Atmar
>
> Interesting, this is similar to what Jude (the apostle) says about
> NON-believers, see Jude , verse 12 (latter part) plus verse 13:
> 'clouds they are without water, carried about of winds... <snip>
> wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness
> forever. '
>
> Thank you, Erik - for your posting.
> Conn

The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the
point than the fact than a drunken man is happier than a sober one. --
George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950)

FW

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us
with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."
-  Galileo Galilei

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