I'm sure the details will become clearer later today, but for now: http://www.forbes.com/newswire/2003/10/03/rtr1098900.html I'm not sure why HP is bothering. It seems Sun is doing a good job of making themselves irrelevant without HP's help. FYI, John * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *