the neat this though is system memory is soooooo cheap these days......
a really high end video card is a dream to behold though!
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Denys Beauchemin" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Carly interview - "Dave Packard did fire and his
nickname was The Evil One "
> Not to take anything away from Dell, but the innards of a Dell owe nothing
to Dell. The mobo of your Dimension 2400 is made by
> Intel and features integrated Graphics cards and sound card. Whilst :)
this is a desirable feature for a low end, never to be
> upgraded PC, it is a design that many people shy away from because you are
stuck with what you get at the beginning. Many PC makers
> have offered this format over the years, including Compaq and HP. Dell
didn't invent anything here. Actually, they never do.
>
> The problem with integrated Graphics is that part of your system memory
will be used for the video card. This reduces the memory
> for the system and prevents the video card from having access to fast,
dedicated memory. For instance, these days, the top of the
> line video cards from ATI and nVidia feature 128 and 256MB of dedicated,
on-board memory. Your system uses between 32 and 64MB of
> DVMT (which means that your system memory will dedicate between 32 to 64MB
of its 128MB to the video card.
>
> The problem with the Integrated AC97 Audio card is that it provides very
basic sound. If you want something better, you will need
> to add a real sound card.
>
> Your system has an Intel Celeron with 128KB of L2 cache. The Pentium 4
has 512KB of L2 cache.
>
> All in all, you got a very basic system at a good price. I would suggest
you immediately upgrade the memory to something
> worthwhile, remembering that you have started with a bare minimum and are
losing up to half of it to drive the video card. You can
> get a 128MB module from Kingston.com for $36 or less. I would consider
upgrading that system to 512MB for $143. But that's just
> me.
>
> Again, Dell didn't invent any technology here, they just package at a
great price.
>
> Denys
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf
Of John Lee
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:51 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Carly interview - "Dave Packard did fire and his nickname was
The Evil One "
>
> (Michael) Dell is very intelligent and very low-profile. He's making more
> money with a company that's a fraction of the size and headaches as HP.
In
> some ways, he's the Henry Ford of our era. He's revolutionized some
> business and manufacturing processes.
>
> I just bought a 2.4 Ghz Dell PC for $499 including LCD monitor. We opened
> it up..incredibly simple, efficient design...there's only one board
> inside...fan funnels to processor in a very clever and efficient way. If
> it weren't for the CDRW and floppy drives, you wouldn't even need the
> enclosure.
>
> John Lee
>
>
>
>
> At 09:35 AM 7/24/03 -0700, Emerson, Tom wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Chuck Ryan [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >>
> >> http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103_2-5051569.html
> >>
> >Hmmm... while everyone is focused on how hot the ink is, did anyone else
> catch the line
> >
> > "All the while, Fiorina is going about the refashioning of HP's
company
> culture, a process that picked up steam with the Compaq merger. Her
> ambition: accelerate the corporate metabolism while still retaining the
> positive legacy embodied in the famed "HP Way." "
> >
> >The phrase "accellerate the corporate metabolism" really caught my eye --
> doesn't metabolism indicate how fast an entity burns fuel and produce
waste?
> >
> >Further down, there is a serious "ouch" line -- too bad it couldn't apply
> to our favorite...
> >
> >[CF] ...(Dell's) a great company, but what they're trying to do now is
> not going to be as easy as what they've done for the last five years. And
> what they've done for the last five years is tune to perfection a single
> way of doing business around a relatively narrow product line.
> >
> >[cnet] But why does that narrow a product line sell?
> >[CF] Because they do a good job at it.
> >
> >Taken the other way, it could be seen as admission that HP doesn't know
> beans about selling "a narrow product line" :)
> >
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