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Following that line of reasoning, I wonder what the 3000's new name will be
when it's brought back.

Frank Gribbin  (wishfully thinking)

-----Original Message-----
From: John Lee [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 12:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: HP Says Plan for PC's Is Corporate
Money-Saver


As we've all been noticing, they just call them something different today.
;)

John Lee


At 11:02 AM 6/4/03 -0500, Greg Cagle wrote:
> If you are talking about X-terminals, they are no longer
>being sold and haven't been for some time. The thinnest
>client you can get from HP right now is the small form
>factor Evo 510 running Linux.
>
>- Greg
>
>John Lee wrote:
>
>> They still do sell these, although mostly on the Unix side
>> now....particularly useful for CAD programs.
>>
>> John Lee
>> Vaske Computer Solutions
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 03:51 PM 6/3/03 -0400, Paul Courry wrote:
>>
>>>HP used to sell something similar, believe they called it an X-windows
>>
>> terminal server. It provided an x-client interface to the HP3000 and was
>> nothing more than a dumb terminal
>>
>>>with a small box attachment to house the x-client hardware. As a product
>>
>> it bombed.
>>
>>>
>>>Paul
>>>
>>>On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 09:44:42 -0400, Mark Wonsil wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Users sit at workstations - each with a screen, a keyboard
>>>>>and some local memory - sign in with passwords and gain
>>>>>access to both processing power and individual work files.
>>>>>Each worker gets a PC blade, but not always the same one.
>>>>>The processing resources are allocated by Hewlett-Packard's
>>>>>OpenView software, developed over years and used for
>>>>>managing workloads in corporate data centers.
>>>>
>>>>OK, they sit at "workstations".  Hmm.  Are these also PCs that need to
be
>>>>maintained or are they Windows Terminal Servers.  If they're PCs, I
would
>>>>think that having two PCs to maintain would be more expensive, if not,
is
>>>>the cost of the Windows terminal included in this savings?  It sounds
easier
>>>>to maintain.  I would think you would have to "nail" some users with
>>>>specific software to certain blades (Cad users for example).  I wonder
about
>>>>software that requires a security dongle.  I also assume that all
scanners
>>>>and printers need to be networked too.  Finally, I wonder how the blade
>>>>approach would compare to Citrix, Windows Terminal Services or even a
VMWare
>>>>approach.
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>Regime change begins at home - remember to vote in the Nov 2004
elections.
>>>
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