Richard Barker said:

> If you said "The most arrogant country in the world." then I would agree

"the country that most other countries are jealous of", then I WOULD AGREE.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Barker" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT : US uses Indian 'threat' to force Pak support on
Iraq


> "But we all know in our hearts that the US is the most generous
> nation on the planet.  We're not perfect, and I'm not certain we should go
> beat up Iraq, but I do know that we are the most generous nation on earth.
> And the money spent to be that is your's and mine, just as the money to
> build our military is."
>
> Don't let any facts get in the way of your opinions.
>
> If you said "The most arrogant country in the world." then I would agree.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Lee [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 11 March 2003 00:05
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT : US uses Indian 'threat' to force Pak
> support on Iraq
>
>
> How many of these countries did we help rebuild after WWII?  Are they
> counting that as aid?  How many of these countries have we forgiven the
> debt of?  Is that counted?  Have they counted aid to rebuild Afghanistan?
> Japan?  Germany? etc.  We could argue this forever...the methodology used
> to compute the numbers in this study can be scrutinized a million
different
> ways.  But we all know in our hearts that the US is the most generous
> nation on the planet.  We're not perfect, and I'm not certain we should go
> beat up Iraq, but I do know that we are the most generous nation on earth.
> And the money spent to be that is your's and mine, just as the money to
> build our military is.
>
> John Lee
>
> At 05:25 PM 3/10/03 EST, [log in to unmask] wrote:
> >John writes:
> >
> >> At 04:52 PM 3/10/03 EST, Wirt Atmar wrote:
> >>  >
> >>  >I suspect that Tim's comment was that the money came out of his
pocket
> to
> >>  >provide whatever aid the US is providing, however meager. That was
> >> certainly
> >>  >John's complaint. But in either case, Tim and John are spending far
> less
> >of
> >>  >their money on aiding the rest of the world than is either the
average
> >>  >Belgian, Japanese or Saudi Arabian.
> >>  >
> >>
> >>  Capital B and capital S.
> >
> >The only saving grace of my statement is that it has the unfortunate
> quality
> >of being true. From the Miami Herald half a year ago:
> >
> >=======================================
> >
> >Posted on Thu, Jul. 25, 2002
> >
> >Small donors show up U.S. aid
> >U.N. report highlights efforts relative to national economies
> >
> >It doesn't look pretty: The United States ranks last among the world's 28
> top
> >foreign aid donor countries, and its foreign assistance levels have
dropped
> >dramatically over the past 10 years, according to a United Nations report
> >released this week.
> >
> >The United Nations Human Development Report 2002, a wide-ranging report
> that
> >includes both fascinating country statistics and a questionable
development
> >ranking of 137 nations, puts the United States well below Denmark, the
> >Netherlands, Japan and even Spain and Portugal on the list of the biggest
> >foreign aid donor countries relative to the size of their economies.
> >
> >Granted, if you look at the actual dollar figures, the $9.9 billion
annual
> >U.S. foreign assistance ranks only second after Japan's $13.5 billion.
> >
> >But when you look at countries' foreign aid relative to the size of their
> >economies, the United States is devoting 0.1 per cent of its gross
national
> >product (GNP) to help the world's poorest countries, less than any other
> >industrialized nation.
> >
> >By comparison, Denmark spends 1.06 percent of its GNP on foreign aid, the
> >Netherlands 0.84 percent, Norway 0.80 percent, Germany 0.27 percent,
Japan
> >0.28 percent, Portugal 0.26 percent, and Spain 0.22 percent. What's
worse,
> >U.S. foreign aid has by this measure been cut in half over the past 10
> years.
> >
>
>http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/columnists/andres_oppenheimer/372
> 941
> >
> >8.htm
> >
> >========================================
> >
> >Wirt Atmar
> >
> >
> >
>
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