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Richard Barker <[log in to unmask]>
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Richard Barker <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:28:23 +0100
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Hi

Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion and it most cases everyone
on this list maintains a certain level of diplomacy and decorum.
Unfortunately recently the new list monitor (or at least he seems to be)
Joe, seems to just be disrespecting everyone who even slightly disagrees
with him.

I suppose I should just ignore him.

Joe, there are other countries in the world and other people who don't
necessarily share Bush's and your opinion on how the world should be run.
Why should we have to suffer the problems that this unilateral, non UN
supported, action creates.  Iraq probably does not have nuclear weapons and
even if they did, what evidence do you have that they would use them.  The
only country that has ever used them, is your own, so who is more likely to
use them again.

The idea of the UN is effectively a form world wide democracy, by just using
it when you want, then ignoring it when it suits you means that maybe
America doesn't really believe in the principle of a democracy only a
dictatorship.


-----Original Message-----
From: joe andress [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 12 March 2003 18:19
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT : Understanding both sides


Iraq can simply prevent any deaths of Iraqi people and destruction of their
infrasturction by ONE person following the compact that HE allowed to be
signed.

HE is the one person who can stop any and all actions. NO one else has
started anything. ONLY HE can stop it.

And for the ignorent ones, its not G W Bush.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Ali" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT : Understanding both sides


Ken Hirsch points out:
>Negotiators were never able to agree on a definition of "aggression",
so the ICC does not currently have any jurisdiction over an alleged
crime of starting a war.


The deaths we inflict upon the Iraqis and damage to their infrastructure
would be the crimes, not the "starting" of the aggression.

I had a quick look at your link and found:  "The Court has jurisdiction in
accordance with this Statute with respect to the following crimes:
(a)     The crime of genocide;
(b)     Crimes against humanity;
(c)     War crimes;
(d)     The crime of aggression.".

Not had a chance to go through it in detail but doesn't point (d) cover what
I'm talking about? I admit that I could be wrong since I've only had a quick
look.

Regards

Richard Ali




Richard Ali
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