You forgot to mention 'a butt-load of available high quality software
systems too'.  Logical file structures (very cool, but can be an indexing
nightmare).

Of course, as with all things, there are some down sides too...for instance,
no OS level generic file lookup...if you don't where your file is, you're
going to have a hell of a time finding it (this, to me, is simply
inexcusable...shame on IBM).  No callable/editable REDO stack (and no, F9 is
not even close)...just to name a few.

But, overall, from what I've seen and heard (and learned at the local tech
college), if I had to do an ugly migration (read as not using ELOQUENCE),
then I'd go for the iseries...SDA (screen design aid on the AS400) is not
that far from VIEW on the hp, the DB2 interface is top notch relational (and
QRY400 is fairly cool), and OS400 is not very difficult to learn (although,
they should add examples to the F1 help screens vs. just syntax
explanations). I shouldn't need to touch on COBOL since I'm sure you are all
aware that on an IBM, COBOL was not an afterthought resolved by a host of
third party vendors (hint, hint).

Love and Kisses,

Ray Shahan

"Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans", John Lennon

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Thatcher [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 10:37 PM
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      Re: Sun and Linux
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Craig Lalley
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 8:01 PM
>
> > http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-991412.html
> >
> > "The shift toward outside versions of Linux would bring Sun more in line
> with
> > rivals such as IBM and Hewlett-Packard, which have chosen partnerships
> with Red
> > Hat and SuSE, and Dell Computer, which has a Red Hat partnership. "
> >
> > Does anyone still think HP-UX is a good platform consider for migration
> from
> > the HP3000?
> >
> > -Craig
>
> I  thought so, until I was educated on the IBM iSeries. What other server
> includes all of these when you open the box and
> turn it on( "i" stand for integrated):
>
> STATE-OF-THE-ART OPERATING SYSTEM -- pre-installed, and tested for
> hours before shipping, including complete print spooling, job
> management, performance and tuning tools.
>
> 64-BIT POWERPC ARCHITECTURE -- 7TH generation, while many others are
> still trying to get their first generation.
>
> SINGLE-LEVEL STORE. This allows the disk and memory to act as one
> when needed, providing true virtual storage while others talk about
> how hard that is to achieve.
>
> TECHNOLOGY INDEPENDENT MACHINE INTERFACE (TIMI). When you upgrade
> hardware and software, most code is migrated without recompiling.
> And you can upgrade or change the software without touching the
> hardware -- or upgrade or change the hardware without touching the
> software. For example, many OS/400 applications went from 48-bit to
> fully 64-bit without even a recompile.
>
> DB2 UNIVERSAL DATABASE. Equivalent relational database software
> costs many thousands of dollars on all other servers.
>
> CLUSTERING -- for shared resources and high availability.
>
> HTTP SERVER. The iSeries features the first commercially available
> threaded Apache-based server, and it's blowing away all previous
> Apache SpecWeb and SpecWebSSL benchmark results.
>
> WEB SEARCH ENGINE -- for indexing and searching your multilingual
> Web documents.
>
> ENHANCED TCP/IP UTILITY -- for load balancing, IP takeover, fault
> tolerance.
>
> SECURITY. The iSeries isn't subject to the same buffer overruns
> others are where memory is shared across all jobs.
>
> ENCRYPTION -- for simplified and centralized digital certificate
> management, optimized SSL/TLS, digitally signed operating system.
>
> NETSERVER -- for Windows file and print sharing.
>
> LOGICAL PARTITIONING -- for dynamic resource movement and shared
> processors, memory, and I/O. Also you can run Linux and Windows.
>
> SUPERIOR SYSTEMS MANAGEMENT -- graphical, automated, and granular
> monitoring, featuring wizards, audit trails, multisystem operations,
> and software maintenance.
>
> DATA MANAGEMENT -- self-optimized and architected through the
> operating system, not on top.
>
> APPLICATION DEVELOPMENT TOOLS -- with an unlimited user license to
> WebSphere Development Studio client (WDSc), including RPG, Cobol,
> and Java.
>
> INTEL INTEGRATION. You can run an Integrated xSeries Server (IXS)
> under the covers or an Integrated xSeries Adapter (IXA) connecting
> to a standalone Intel server, either one running Microsoft-based
> applications but using iSeries disk and management.
>
> Should be seriously considered...
>
> David A. Thatcher
> Advanced Network Systems, Inc.
>
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