My concern in switching to .NET/C# technologies would be that it is an
approach that subscribes to a platform-limited proprietary platform
which relies on support from a Company with an increasingly dubious
track record.
I'm not sure I understand why Richard is "very disappointed with Java"
since this is certainly not our experience.
We are particularly pleased with the productivity and performance
improvements we are achieving re-engineering both MPE Cobol and MPE
Fortran legacy code to Java classes, having developed Java-based tools
to automate much of this.
Another reason we have for liking Java is that we can use Eclipse, the
open source IDE, which allows us to plugin most of our MPE-related
migration and development tools and API's such as ADBC and VPLUS
Adapters.
The VDE for .NET has strengths and weaknesses in just the same way that
the various Java IDE's (JBUILDER, VisualAge, etc.) have strengths and
weaknesses. As for "disappointment with Java", our experience is quite
to the contrary; we find that Java development continues to move from
strength to strength whilst M$ continues to follow in its wake
plagiarising it's open platform features, and structures.
I think it unfortunate that Sun and M$ fell out over Java since SUN lost
an important partner and M$ lost an important technology.
I agree that .NET is attractive for client-side applications on Windows-
based platforms, particularly where there is a large investment in
legacy VB code. But IMO for scalable, secure, supportable, platform-
agnostic server-side applications Java and Java-based servers provide
the most cost-effective solutions. But regardless of the platform
chosen, you will need to fully understand object oriented analysis and
design methodologies.
Chris Thompson
The Internet Agency
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>Richard writes:
>> On another topic, I wondered what people's opinion of Java was. I've been
>> learning and using Java on and off over the last 2 years, but am seriously
>> thinking of giving up and switching to C Sharp, part of the .NET
>> suite as it looks so much better. I have been very disappointed with
>Java,
>> especially it's web services.
>
>Java is probably the most popular tool for web app development, as it has
>several more years of development behind it, with a similarly large set of
>add-on tools (many of them free). Look around the Apache.org web site for
>example.
>
>Java does suffer from the still-visible remnants of its evolutionary
>process, and its web application support is spread across a number of
>technologies and tools, which makes coming up to speed on the whole thing
>really incredibly amazingly difficult.
>
>Many of the main-stream Java technologies form Sun (J2EE, etc.) can be
>overwhelming in their complexity and feature sets, and many of the "simple"
>or "easy" frameworks (Apache offers multiple options in this area) have a
>fairly steep learning curve before you "catch on" to the way things are
>supposed to be done.
>
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>Overall I'm extremely impressed with the .NET system and its tools, but if
>you find Java's web development tools overwhelming, then I don't know that
>you'll find developing a C# web application to be *that* much easier.
>
>G.
>
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