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Regarding the message by Yosef Rosenblatt

He said -

I think we can accept the list as pretty much accurate. They
include: Albania, Armenia, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bulgaria, Costa
Rica, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Georgia, Hungary, Israel,
Italy, Japan, Jordan, Kuwait, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Oman, the
Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Romania, Saudi Arabia, Slovakia,
Slovenia, Spain, Turkey, the United Arab Emirates and the United Kingdom.
These 34 nations represent only about 10 percent of the population of the
world's 197 countries. Subtracting the estimated 70 percent of their
populations that opinion polls show are not in favor of war,  the war
supporters in the coalition of the willing countries make up only about 3
percent of the world's population. This is hardly an overwhelming ground
swell of support.

I say -

1)  Note the large minority or former Soviet countries countries.  I count
13, 14 if you count Albania.  I wonder if these people support this because
they see the earmarks of their former oppresors methods in Iraq?

2)  Who estimated the 70 percent of the populations oppose the war?
I doubt 70 percent of the Kuwaiti's oppose it.

3)  What was the percentage of the population supporting war against
the Axis in 1938?

He said

Further examination shows that at least 7 of these countries are absolute
monarchies: Bahrain, Jordan, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United
Arab Emirates and are home to regimes just as repressive as Iraq. One of the
countries, Israel, is led by an indicted war criminal; an indicted civil
criminal leads another, Italy. The US's two closest neighbors, Mexico and
Canada (which is also the US's number one trading partner), are opposed to
the war.

I say -

According to the 2002 World Factbook

http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ba.html#Govt

Three of these are what could be defined as 'absolute' monarchies,
depending on how you define an absolute Monarchy.  The rest are
monarchies limited in some fashion, excerpt for the Emirates, which is
not even a monarchy.

To say these are as opressive as Iraq is ridiculous.  Name one case where
any of these governments have supported spraying masses of people with
sulfuric acid.

The 'War Criminal' stuff is absurd also, you could say Bill Clinton was
impeached by the US Congress also.  Means nothing.

You say -

Bullies can win for a short time but they must never turn their backs on the
bullied. The rich can buy allegiance but they must make sure their pockets
remain full of bribes. I hope that true beliefs of the residents of this
fragile orb will come to the front overcoming their own fears and the morass
of the rich nation's lucre.
Let Peace be the maxim by which we act because we will Peace to become a
universal law.

I say -

By 'bullies' you must mean Saddam Hussein.

I for one am getting tired of this 'Let Peace be the maxim' mantra.  If
you want peace, prepare for war.  No pacifist cultures ever had anything
anyone else wanted.

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