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Tim Cummings <[log in to unmask]>
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Tim Cummings <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:04:58 -0500
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Fred,

What if we did nothing?  What if we waited for the inspections to work?
What if in the mean time Saddam decides to lob a few hundred of his chemical
weapons at say, Israel or Turkey or Kuwait or Saudi Arabia and he kills a
few hundred thousand people.  What about all of those innocent women and
children?  Do they count for anything?  We would have had the chance to stop
it but if we followed the minority opinion (you might say popular opinion)
we backed out and allowed this to happen.  Then the same people who are now
protesting the war will be saying our government "knew" and we did nothing,
we could have done something.

This scenario is almost identical to what is happening to our police forces
around the country.  Complaints of "profiling" and "discrimination" and
personal lawsuits (all protests) against our officers are causing them to
not conduct pre-emptive police work.  Look at the crime rate in any city
with these problems, it is running ramped.  I speak from experience, look at
Cincinnati.  A couple of years ago we had an incident where a young man lost
his life running from the police.  Since then the officers have all but
stopped doing pro-active police work and now the crime rate has skyrocketed.
There have never been so many murders as there are now.  They are all afraid
of being sued.  Apply this same scenario to Saddam, and world wide terrorism
will do the same.

Yes, fortunately we are the world's police force.  Since no other country is
willing (or able) to step up to the job we must do it (alone if necessary).
We must do it for the world despite their ignorance.

As far as Osama and the budget, you must not be listening.  There is
constant activity on both.  Pick up something other than the New York Times
and you'll see. The liberal crowd is constantly attacking the solutions
proposed by GW.  If they would get on board and pass the tax package GW is
proposing we could already be on the road to prosperity.  But, as usual,
they want the issue to run on in 2004 so they will obstruct as long as
possible.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: fred White [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 12:13 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Re: [HP3000-L] Left, Left, Left-Right-Left

Tim,

We understand what "our current administration thinks". We simply don't
believe in the US proceeding unilaterally unless and until all other
efforts have failed. We also don't subscribe to Bush's "If your not
with us, your against us" approach. How divisive.

By the way, why hasn't he mentioned Osama lately? Or the budget deficit?

FW


On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 09:49 AM, Tim Cummings wrote:

> Hey John, Don't confuse them with the facts!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Lee [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:38 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Re: [HP3000-L] Left, Left, Left-Right-Left
>
> I think we're losing site of the US position.  Our current
> administration
> thinks that Iraq is aiding and abetting terrorists who intend to kill
> Americans (and others), in mass quantity if possible.  They also think
> that
> Iraq is hiding mass murderers, in the form of Al Queda leaders.  The
> administration wants to go in and investigate, destroy and WMD, and
> flush
> out those responsible for alot of death.  At least that's my take.
>
> John Lee, speaking for myself
>
>
>
>
> That's what At 09:30 AM 2/18/03 -0700, fred White wrote:
>> On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 07:44 AM, rosenblatt, joseph wrote:
>>
>>> We must stop this attitude that says if you disagree with US policy
>>> you must
>>> be at worst a traitorous scoundrel that seeks to destroy democracy,
>>> mom and
>>> apple pie and at best some sort of dewy-eyed liberal* dupe that lacks
>>> understanding of the real situation. The "If your not for me you are
>>> against
>>> me" credo is simplistic, mean-spirited and can get us into a lot of
>>> trouble.
>>
>> Hear! Hear!
>>
>> FW
>>
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