On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 11:12 AM, Wirt Atmar wrote:

> Matthew writes:
>
>>  Nothing irritates those that need to be ignored than being ignored.
>> No
>>  brow beating Joe, instead: here, here! (as the British say). I add my
>>  suggestion that Mr. Rosenblatt move such discussions to another news
>>  group more attuned to the purpose - this list is after all supposed
>> to
>>  be about the HP3000. Maybe Mr. Rosenblatt won't mind if I say a
>> prayer
>>  or two that his company migrate to another platform and him with it?
>
> I'm unsure why Yosef is coming under such abuse. What he has to say is
> no
> different than anyone else says on this group, with the obvious
> exception
> that he is clearly not a member of the vast right-wing conspiracy.
>
> A little difference of opinion is worth its weight in gold. You don't
> have to
> agree with what someone says, but you do have to give him every right
> to say
> it -- and possibly even the obligation to consider what he has to say
> might
> even be correct. Hell, I don't agree with hardly anything Denys has to
> say --
> other than which backup device to buy -- but I still consider him one
> of my
> oldest friends in the HP3000 community, and he has occasionally -- very
> occasionally -- actually properly corrected me (although I would never
> admit
> it).
>
> I've lived in two worlds for most of my adult life. One is this one,
> where
> libertarian values (trade protectionist, anti-immigration, slightly
> racist,
> etc. views) are considered "moderate" stances. The other is in the
> academic
> community. In this second world, my opinions are often seen as just
> right of
> Attila the Hun's, a reactionary archconservative. But in the world of
> this
> list, Denys considers me a flaming pinko liberal, far to the left of
> Marx and
> Lenin. Based on those reactions, I've always thought that I've got it
> just
> about right.
>
> If nothing else, listening to what the other fellow has to say can be
> extremely entertaining, if not slightly educational.

Hear, hear!

But, you must remember Wirt, people who already have all of the answers
to what many of us still consider open questions don't appreciate
opinions which appear to contradict their conclusions.

FW

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