Wirt Atmar ([log in to unmask]) wrote:
: Stan writes:
:
: > That's why we need more programmers in Washington, and more lawyers
: > unemployed.
:
: Well, we're not likely to get them. In 2000, the latest data that I have
: available, at the doctorate level (although I personally don't equate
: a Juris Doctoris with a Ph.D.; a JD to me is more akin to an extended
: Master's), the United States graduated:
:
: o 40,000 JD's
:
: and
:
: o 857 Ph.D.'s in computer science, half of which were non-residents.
:
: Now while not everyone needs a Ph.D. in computer science, this can't be
: good for the long-term future of the country. Worse yet, the fastest
: growing college major in the United States is Parks, Recreation and
: Leisure and in 1997, with this major out-enrolling electrical engineering
: for the first time, with the gap growing increasingly larger each year
: since.
:
It's little wonder that students are switching from non-technical majors:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2002-10-08-computer-science-majors_x.htm
USATODAY.com - Computer majors down amid tech bust
"SAN FRANCISCO -- The tech bust is hurting the popularity of computer
majors in U.S. colleges, and that could eventually cause worker
shortages in a highly competitive global industry.
U.S. colleges say the decline in enrollments in computer science and
engineering classes started last year and hastened this fall..."
which is understandble with stories like these...
http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/4332783.htm
Mercury News | 10/21/2002 | Slowdown sending tech jobs overseas
"The U.S. economy might be stalling, but at least one niche is hot:
shipping technology jobs offshore.
The economic slowdown is speeding up the export of jobs, experts say.
As executives face smaller budgets and more pressure for profits, they
find it much cheaper to send work to contractors overseas. More U.S.
companies are following Silicon Valley's lead by shifting engineering
and other technology-related jobs to places such as China, Ireland,
India and the Philippines to cut costs.
The drift of jobs is worrying engineering groups, renewing fears that
white-collar tech jobs in the United States are going the way of
blue-collar manufacturing jobs: over the border and across the seas.
[snip]
Labor experts say no one knows how many engineering jobs the United
States has lost because of the recent uptick in offshore outsourcing..."
That's not a surprise, since there is no government agency mandated to
track offshore job relocations and their impact on tax revenues.
Here's some more news:
http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/1503461
Nearly 1 Million IT Jobs Moving Offshore
http://www.zdnetindia.com/news/national/stories/70849.html
US to move 3.3 Million jobs offshore by 2015: Forrester
"Altogether 3.3 million US jobs in the services sector and $136 billion
in wages are expected to move offshore to countries like India,
Russia, China and the Philippines by 2015 according to a recent report
of research and consulting firm Forrester Research.
The report adds that the IT industry will lead the initial overseas
exodus..."
Intel's doing their share of offshore job relocations:
http://portland.bizjournals.com/portland/stories/2002/08/26/daily56.html
Intel holds job fairs for 'redeployed' employees, while hiring overseas
Intel Corp., Oregon's largest technology employer, is proceeding with
previously announced job cuts, while hiring software engineers for its
development center in India..."
Contrast that story with the following one...
http://www.fortune.com/articles/209973.html
FORTUNE.COM - Fast Forward - Will the U.S. Fall Behind in Tech?
"At last week's Agenda technology conference, many in the audience
pricked up their ears when Pat Gelsinger, Intel's chief technology
officer and head of research, began passionately complaining on stage
about U.S. technology competitiveness. "Perhaps the current downsizing
of the U.S. IT industry is not a temporary thing," Gelsinger said.
"Maybe we are headed for becoming a second-class citizen in the world
of IT." He mentioned China and India among countries he said were more
committed to IT as a national priority than is the U.S.
It was shocking enough to many in the audience, including me, to hear
Gelsinger's worries. But that night at a reception I found myself
standing with both him and Craig Mundie, chief technical officer and
strategist for Microsoft. I asked Mundie if he shared Gelsinger's
fears, expecting a tepid endorsement or a mere statement of respectful
disagreement. Instead, I got full-bore enthusiastic, even insistent,
agreement. "If the U.S. cedes its leadership in IT there will not be a
second chance," opined Mundie, with Gelsinger nodding approvingly..."
It sounds like Intel & Microsoft are declaring their intent to make
the U.S. a second-class citizen in the IT world.
:
: There's going to be an awful lot of people asking here soon, "Do you
: want fries with that?"
:
That's already the mantra of many of the high-tech unemployed...
http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/career/article.php/1495251
Harsh Fall: High-Tech Layoffs Soar In October
"Dramatic layoffs in the high-tech sector helped push the total of U.S.
job cuts last month to heights reminiscent of the economic fall in
2001.
After falling to a 22-month low in September, job cuts announced by
U.S. companies in October jumped to 176,010 -- 151% higher than
September's 70,057, according to figures released by Challenger, Gray
& Christmas, Inc., which tracks job cuts daily. While September's
numbers were the lowest monthly total since September 2000, October's
rate is equal to 7,600 job cuts per business day.
"When we hit the 22-month low in September, it looked like layoffs
were finally becoming manageable, but this has thwarted that thought,"
says John Challenger, CEO of Challenger, Gray & Christmas. "The fact
that we've returned to levels we were seeing in 2001 is a real cause
for concern."
Challenger says the telecommunications and computer industries laid
off more workers last month than any other sector, combining for
51,644 job cuts. Another 7,942 layoffs were announced by e-commerce
and electronics companies..."
This will help McDonald's employment picture:
http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20021118S0023
EE Times - H-1Bs now can stay longer
"QUAN_MARGARET Sometimes it seems like lawmakers have their heads in
the sand. Do they grasp what's happening in the high-tech job market?
Have they seen the reports about rising unemployment among EEs or
noticed the jobless rate of 7.9 percent in Silicon Valley during the
month of October?
I ask because a Justice Department Appropriations Authorization bill
signed by President Bush on Nov. 2 has a provision that could affect
the job picture for engineers. A section of that legislation extends
the current six-year term for H-1B visa holders, who now essentially
may stay in the United States indefinitely until they receive a green
card, as long as they remain employed..."
http://www.usvisanews.com/memo1910.html
Jose Latour's Port of Entry --
HR-2215 And What It Means For Our H-1B Clients -- [ U.S. Visa News ]
"You probably haven't heard about this because it has not exactly been
the hot topic of choice on the major media, but on November 2, 2002,
President Bush signed into law the "21st Century Department of Justice
Appropriations Authorization Act." Today and tomorrow I'm going to
tell you guys about the most important two aspects of this law..."
Perhaps the author of "The Government Has Decided to Sacrifice UK
Software Industry", Gerry McLaughlin, is correct:
Has UK software industry been 'sacrificed'? Pt.1
http://www.contractoruk.co.uk/news040702.html
http://www.contractoruk.co.uk/news080702.html
Has UK software industry been 'sacrificed'? Pt.2
http://www.contractoruk.co.uk/news100702.html
Has UK software industry been 'sacrificed'? Pt.3
"...It's just that a worldwide decision was taken some time ago,
in collusion with the western world's major businesses, that
their software industries were to be sacrificed to the developing
countries, in order to retain competitive advantage in our core
added-value businesses, which would remain off-limit to the developing
world. It was a pure 'bean count' decision and we were the losers..."
--Jerry Leslie (my opinions are strictly my own)
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