Dear Cynthia,
First let me say that I was wrong about the date of November 30, It was
November 1, and I am sorry about that. Most memberships of all types usually
end at the "end of the month, not the beginning.
However,
Do you see the point I am trying to make here?
I have had many issues with interex over the past several years and as an
advocate of Interex for many years there has been no clear picture for the
members of Interex. Denys has sent me a personal e-mail stating that he is
trying to change things around for the "paying members".
Interex has made many bad decisions in recent memory. One that was made very
clear at HPQWorld was to not stand up to HPQ or whoever made the decision to
not allow the press into the conference roundtable talks of the direction
for the HP3000 users. I just missed watching the people at the door when the
conference staff was trying to keep Ron Seybold out of the conference topic.
What's that all about.
The idiots who decided to vote "our" shares for the merger. Gee and just
think Michael Capellas could not wait to leave the HPQ announcing he is
leaving to become CEO of WorldCom just announced today.
I cannot tell you how disappointed I have been since the Interex board
listens to the 3000L and could have made a clear decision on maybe asking
all the 1000 plus listeners at the time how Interex should vote.
My guess is that the individual and corporate memberships of interex at the
time of the announced merger were HP3000 users. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe
Interex should publish what percentage of subscribers are / were HP3000
users.
Maybe Interex is on the back side of the mountain like most of the HP3000
advocates. This was not a choice of the group and should not have been the
choice of HPQ to destroy the platform. Michael got his way to keep another
propriety system to stay afloat for years to come.
I guess I am still reeling from the whole decision of the HP3000 demise. So
I have no plans to continue my membership nor do I want to contribute to a
lost cause of helping Interex staying in business for the sake of HPQ.
When HPQ made this decision to merge they no longer deserve the name of
Hewlett-Packard.
And today being the day after the one year anniversary of the decision to
announce the demise of the HP3000 with more bad decisions on the platform,
like having the newest systems not support 7.0 only make me more saddened
that HPQ continues to shoot the one thing they really invented.
If HPQ makes a decision to changes it's HPQ way and let the HP3000/Image go
to a nice home where it can be put in better hands then I may change my
mind.
Until then, Please stay away.
Kind Regards
-----Original Message-----
From: Cynthia Sternberg [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 9:56 AM
To: Joseph Dolliver
Subject: Re: help you keep pace with technology ?
Dear Mr. Dolliver
Thank you for your email. I understand there are some items you would
like to have clarified as they pertain specifically to your membership
in Interex.
First off, I'd like to thank you for your continued support of this
organization. Our records clearly show that you have been a member
since 1982. One the few who have stayed with Interex through the
thick and thin times. And though your membership level has varied
through the years, you did return to the Value membership last year
for the MPE tape which is offered as a member benefit to Value and
above members.
Regarding the invoice you recently receive which indicates your
expiration date of November 1, 2002. I do not know what documentation
you may have to the contrary, but our records indicated your
membership expired on November 1, 2002. This is a new date for you as
for many years your expiration date was July 1. So I can understand
where there would be some confusion.
I do see where there was an error last year in the processing of your
membership and it was inadvertently deleted as a bad address. We may
not have had your up-to-date address information in our files, but
we certainly should have made more of an attempt to contact you to
rectify the situation. I understand that you spoke to the Member
Services Manager and she extended your membership to November 1 as a result
of our error.
Mr. Dolliver, you have been a valued member of Interex for so very
long, and it would be unfortunate for your association with us to end
on such a sad note. I would ask you to please re-consider your
decision to not renew this year. I note that you have attended the HP
World Conference many times and have never taken advantage of the
"special renewal" offer that was available to you as a paid conference
attendee. I would like to extend that offer to you now. The Conference
Value
membership is offered at the cost of $100 instead of the $195 you normally
pay.
It would be my honor to process your renewal personally, if you agree.
I remain yours truly
Cynthia Sternberg
Manager, Member Sales and Services
On 12 Nov 2002 at 20:35, Joseph Dolliver wrote:
To: HP-3000 Systems Discussion group
cc: Interex Membership Department
Re: Letter from Interex I received today
First I should apologize for what you are about to read .........
........................................................
I got this letter today telling me that my interex membership has
expired.
Please help me here. I am trying very hard to find value in renewing
my membership. First of all >>MY MEMBERSHIP EXPIRES IN 19 DAYS>>
So please tell me what value have you added to me in the past several
months / years.
First off you mislaid my payment from last August, then you stopped
publishing the interex magazine, turned a blind eye supporting the
HP3000 community, The group that has kept you in business for almost
30 years. You tell me I have been a valued member since 1998. Please
someone on the list explain to me why I should renew. They cannot keep
my membership straight, cancel me prematurely last year, tell me I
have been a member for 4 years, argue with me when I ask for a "tape
copy" of the latest contributions to the HP3000 library.
I ask again, what value are you adding to me and my career or for that
matter the HP3000 community. We built your organization and we will be
the basis of your future.
I have been an active member of Interex for 20 + years and cannot
afford to spend another cent of my hard earned money on an
organization that voted my shares without asking for the merger that
has in opinion created yet another self promoting waist of time.
Now ask me how I really feel
regards
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Dear Joseph:
Your Interex Value membership has expired (Member ID 2720). Your final
invoice notice has been mailed and you will no longer be able to
access your member benefits. However, it's not too late to renew!
To renew your Interex membership, please click here. Your renewal
payment is plus applicable shipping and handling fees.
Renew now and continue to receive:
System and technology updates from HP
Publications, software and conferences that help you keep pace with
technology and keep your technical skills current Powerful networking
opportunities to exchange ideas and solutions with your peers who
share the same professional challenges. YES, I'm renewing
[ ] My renewal payment has been mailed
[ ] Please fax another invoice. My fax number is:
[ ] I will complete the secure online application with my credit card
information at http://www.interex.org/member/renew.html
I will not be renewing my membership because:
[ ] I am no longer working on HP computers
[ ] Of budgetary constraints
[ ] My job responsibilities have changed
[x] Other (please comment) ---- waist of my hard earned respect
For complete information about your member benefits, visit our web
site at http://www.interex.org/member/benefit.html or contact
membership at 1.800.INTEREX (468-3739) x204 or [log in to unmask]
We look forward to welcoming you back as a member soon.
Best regards,
Your Member Service Team
Joseph Dolliver
483 Hawk Ridge Lane
Sykesville, MD 21784
443-838-7613 cell
443-621-5304 office cell
410-549-1818 home
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Interex
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