They SHOULD have always been important....... :-(
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Tony Newton
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Baier [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 8:01 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Where is Carly?
Maybe she was busy reading and checking HP's financial statements before
signing them for the SEC.
The dead-line was yesterday, if I recall.
Correct financial statements are important nowadays. ;-)
On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 07:16:34 -0700, F. Alfredo Rego <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
>At 1:02 AM -0500 8/15/02, Greg Cagle <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> F. Alfredo Rego wrote:
>>
>>> It is fascinating to see all of these folks tripping over each
>>> other as they jump onto the Linux bandwagon (exception: Sergey
>>> is an academic from Stanford, NOT a business person, so he GREW
>> > up using Linux). Carly certainly was a leader in this "Linux
>> > bandwagon-jumping" contest and I am amazed that she is nowhere
>>> to be seen in terms of keynotes (or even in terms of "feature
>>> presentations", which I understand are a step lower in the
>>> conference-speaker pecking order).
>>
>>Carly gave the keynote at the January LinuxWorld in NYC.
>
>Ahem... In the old days, there was ONE keynote. Nowadays,
>with so many fragile egos at the top, conference organizers
>have come up with the clever idea of SEVERAL keynotes. This,
>of course, would make tonal musicians (such as Mozart) die
>all over again.
>
>But I digress:
>
>Yes, Greg. That's why I explicitly wrote:
>
> Carly certainly was a leader in this
> "Linux bandwagon-jumping" contest.
>
>My two sentences above should be read as a love letter:
>http://www.robelle.com/library/smugbook/manual.html
>
>
>
>BTW: There is a growing sense of uneasiness in the Linux
>community about the increasing number of "suits" (male or
>female) complete with bodyguards, handlers, and so on. To
>paraphrase an Oldsmobile advertisement, "This is not your
>parent's Linux" (or, more accurately in this modern era, when
>true innovations don't seem to be coming down from the
>executive suite but up from the bits-and-bytes programmers,
>"This is not your child's Linux").
>
>No wonder there is a lot of talk about "kidnapping". But I
>digress. I look forward to an informal meeting with some
>file-system experts. Naturally, the conversation will be
>about *distributed* file systems. I am still searching for
>information on trivial (for MPE folks) things such as freaddir
>and fwritedir, which have been "standard" on every release of
>MPE since 1972 or so.
>
>Different strokes for different folks.
>
>On the subject of "leadership", here is the abstract for a
>session that I attended yesterday on "The LSB" (The Linux
>Standard Base), a new and exciting concept:
>
>___________________________________________________________
>
>The LSB: Building an Easier Life for Everyone
>
>M. Drew Streib, Community Development Manager, Free
>Standards Group
>
>The LSB provides a stable platform for the development of
>applications. The benefits to developers include stability,
>reduced testing time, and good documentation of interfaces.
>The end result is a much improved experience for everyone,
>from developers to enterprise customers to end users. We
>will see more software sold on shelves that "just works" as
>expected, because the user's runtime platform will match
>that of the developer's environment. This session will
>explore the benefits of the Linux Standard Base to your
>everyday user, and how you can help to ensure that your
>experience is as expected. Come learn some of the
>technical background of the LSB, and some of the general
>issues developers must deal with in end users running
>applications on platforms that vary from machine to
>machine. Leave with a general understanding of why the LSB
>will improve the user experience, and what steps are
>necessary for us to make the entire process work.
>___________________________________________________________
>
>
>
>Let me repeat this bits-and-bytes sentence:
>
> We will see more software sold on shelves that
> "just works" as expected, because the user's runtime
> platform will match that of the developer's environment.
>
>Carly *had* a long and genuine technical leadership, provided
>by MPE. In fact, she still does, with MPE. I have mentioned
>just two examples (MPE's standard base and MPE's file system).
>I am sure you can come up with many other examples. But she
>was not happy with her genuine MPE leadership. She had to
>prove her leadership by jumping on the Linux bandwagon (via
>a LinuxWorld presentation BEFORE Scott McNealy and Larry
>Ellison. She certainly did. Good for her.
>
>Granted, Carly is too far up the leadership ladder in HP and
>she probably has been shielded from all the nasty minor
>technical details. She deserves the benefit of the doubt.
>
>The question still remains: What's the deal with MPE?
>I look forward to her keynote at HP World in Los Angeles.
>
>Puzzled in San Francisco,
>
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