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Re: system halt
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Christian Lheureux <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:22:07 +0200
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The dumpreading tool is nothing more than a TELESUP program called DATPROG,
plus an NMPRG file called SYMOS. It's standard on every system.

The problem is not reading dumps, it's the interpretation. As Stan correctly
underscored, access to source is, if not vital, at least a powerful help.
Access to internal MPE knowledge is close to vital. Access to documentation
is important as well. Former HP/MPE Support Engineers may be ideally placed
(THIS IS A BLATANT PLUG) to perform dumpreading.

Christian Lheureux
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> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]De la
> part de Nichols, Gibson (G.M.)
> Envoyé : lundi 1 juillet 2002 18:59
> À : [log in to unmask]
> Objet : Re: [HP3000-L] system halt
>
>
> Yes, it sound like the dump analyzer is powerful.
> Who has it and will it be available after 2006?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stan Sieler [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 12:36 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Cc: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] system halt
>
>
> Re:
>
> > Well what this means to me is that someone has access to the source.
> > How would anyone find the root cause of a problem never seen before?
>
> By reading the dump, looking at the assembly code ... the dump
> analyzer on MPE/iX is amazingly powerful.
>
> Just last week, we found a problem HP hadn't found for a customer
> by doing this.
>
> Of course, having access to source code makes things easier,
> and enables one to find more problems ... which is why we need to
> pressure HP into making the source available somehow.
>
> Stan
>
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