David T Darnell ([log in to unmask]) wrote:
: Jerry Leslie wrote, in part:
:
: "That's enough to wonder how stable the U.S. will be."
:
: If tech workers can't get work, or have to take large pay cuts, and the
: problem continues to grow:
:
: Who is going to buy the high-dollar products? Third-worlders on third-world
: salaries, or maybe stereotypical K-Mart customers? The economy could fall
: into a deep recession.
:
: If half the people on your block cannot afford rent, mortgage, or car
: payments, what do you think is going to happen to people trying to forclose
: or reposess? How far does it go before people decide the system has failed?
: It has already gone further than, say, in the 1770's, but it is a much more
: complicated world today, and the illusion is better maintained.
:
: Anyone read the Mormon prophecies about the US falling into a state of
: arnarchy, the US government becoming ineffectual, and foreign troops coming
: in to restore order or administer martial law? Once, this sounded like so
: much paranoid hooey; now, it doesn't seem so far down the pike.
:
: Let my rhetoric go forth: "It is unpatriotic to send your work overseas.
: Buy American, hire American".
:
:
See americabetrayed's attached post, and my followup...
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Several workers are arming themselves for the what they see is the
inevitable collapse of the US society. These have been laid off factory
workers, high tech types like engineers, software programmers. Most have
been out of work so long all their benefits have run out.
Concerned about what they say. I have been looking around the net
reading the local newspapers. The news is depressing, a town in Virginia
lost all three of its factories (moved offshore) and now the town has
80% unemployment. They have hopes of attracking high tech to the area.
Fat chance, on that happening. I read another report where China has had
a government program for the last 5 years. They have a lot of
unemployment in some areas and their has been numerous clashes between
civilians upset with no jobs and the military. This report said the
Chinese government plans to help create a high outsourcing service
based on India's model. But the Chinese will only charge 1/5 as much as
the India companies. By 2006 they will have enough engineers trained
that they will be able to replace every high tech worker in the US and
Europe. Vietnam is also gearing up to take jobs away from Japan and the
US. The Gartner group reports that outsourcing now takes away about
10-20 Billion dollars from the US economy. By 2004 companies plan on
outsourcing another 500 Billion.
Looks grim. I think maybe they are right. Let's see I fought in a war.
Now what was it that I was fighting for? I remember, 'To preserve our
way of life.'
I know I will not loose my house without a fight.
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Subject: Re: Call to ARMS
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americabetrayed ([log in to unmask]) wrote:
: [snip]
The U.S. is a long way from being as bad off as Serbia was under their
bloody dictator, Slobodan Milosevic. And yet he was removed from power
without a single shot being fired:
http://www.pbs.org/weta/dictator/
Bringing Down a Dictator | PBS
"In the fall of 2000, the Serbian people reclaimed their country from
Slobodan Milosevic. Their weapons were not guns and bombs, but
ridicule, rock music and massive civil disobedience. This is their
story..."
There were two fatalities: one die to a heart attack, and one from
a traffic accident as the Serbian people s went to Belgrade to joint
the anti-Milosevic movement.
http://www.pbs.org/weta/dictator/film/
Bringing Down a Dictator: The Film | PBS
"...To order Bringing Down a Dictator on home video, contact Films
For the Humanities at 1-800-257-5126, or visit http://www.films.com.
Per www.films.com:
"Item: BVL29657
Format: VHS
List Price: $149.95
Rental Price: $75.00
Prices include public performance rights
Closed Captioned
Available only in the United States and Canada.
Copyright date: 2002"
$ 149.95 for this film is a better investment than a gun.
--Jerry Leslie [log in to unmask] (my opinions are strictly my own)
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