Actually Birket.....  Minisoft did announce that our ODBC driver supports
HP Eloquence.  A couple of months ago.  It was VERY easy to do.  And as you
stated was a weeks effort at most.  Our JDBC driver (now 3.0 compliant) and
our Middleman product also support Eloquence as well.

Just wanted to set the record straight.

Sincerely,


Doug Greenup
Minisoft, Inc.



At 07:58 AM 5/20/02 -0700, you wrote:
>In article <[log in to unmask]>, Michael Marxmeier
><[log in to unmask]> writes:
>
> >
> >> HP Eloquence is now owned by HP - Germany.  They bought it
> >> from Marxmeier Software AG.
> >
> >This is basically correct but could be misunderstood.
> >Just to be explicit: This did not happen recently.
> >
> >
> >Michael
> >
>
>Michael,
>
>Let me help the folks out:
>
>1) Eloquence has been a "temporary" solution for the HP250/260  users
migrating
>to HPUX for more than 10 years.
>
>2) There is a turbo Image layer that was added to assist HP3000 users with
>having a database on HP-UX.
>
>3) This is more than just a database ... there is a "Business Basic" there.
>(Wirt knows)
>
>4) There are differences with Image.
>
>5) MBFoster is writing a class for Eloquence. If anyone is interested in the
>class they can drop me a note (just remove the nospam part of the email
>address). Would the preferred format be in person with hands on or as a multi
>part webinar?
>
>6) There are several vendors investigating Eloquence and making the products
>work with it they include: MBFoster, DISC, SPEEDWARE, COGNOS, Robelle, AICS -
>other than Robelle there have been no product announcements.
>
>7) At MBFoster we were able to get our UDALink talking to Eloquence in 3 or 4
>days ... (thanks for the help Michael) MBFoster is not finished with our
>automated test suites and have a goal of having a full test run on HP-UX,
Linux
>and NT by June 30th. And we will be looking at the scalibility testing - the
>250/260 had a limited number of users we are interested in how many
>sessions/processes can do work in the Eloquence database at the same time ...
>we will share the results with Michael.
>
>8) Michael as said that anything that TurboImage does Eloquence should be
able
>to do ... or it is a bug.
>
>Hope this helps a bit ... it is still early but Eloquence show promise for
>people wanting a TurboImage replacement ... by the time most people get
serious
>about assessing their Transition/Migration options (probably in 2004) the
>environment will be much better defined.
>
><plug> Our Next Free Webinar dealing with the Transition for the 3000 is on
>Wednesday, May 29th  ... it will give a framework of the things you ought
to be
>thinking of in addition to the database choice. </plug>
>
>CSY has a Webinar coming up on May 21st on the topic of language migration
...
>drop me a note if you want more info (don't forget to remove the NOSPAM
part of
>the address)
>
>Hope your week was successful ...
>
>
>Birket Foster
>M. B. Foster Associates .. the 1-800-ANSWERS people!
>Supplying UDALink w/cross-platform ODBCLink Option (3000,9000&NT)
>See how DataExpress has evolved www.MBFoster.com
>EC/EDI(3000,9000,NT) Phone (613) 448-2333 or (613) 448-2588(FAX)
>
>* To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, *
>* etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *
>

* To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, *
* etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *