I think that OpenMPE is doing a great many things for the HP3000 community
on the whole.  Their website has a lot of info.

I too miss the RUG meetings.  In fact I watched as the Chicago RUG imploded.
As a newbee, it was a terrible thing to watch.

It's time to get the passion back.  Users and vendors all should take
notice.  We have to get jacked up and show that this is not something that
you can just say "it's over".  May be if we want to meet, there is a club
for MPE in Yahoo.  Just schedule the time and date.  Members of OpenMPE
could come by and give updates.  Users could get things off their chest.
Vendors and Consultants could bring what they have to the table.

And we have to include users/vendors/consultants that are NOT members of
this list server.  This means getting the word out.  That will take hard
work.  But it can be done and we have to be committed.  John, you up for
this??

Ron Horner
HP3000 Systems Administrator
JCPenney Logistics
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John R. Wolff" <[log in to unmask]>
To: "HP3000 List" <[log in to unmask]>; "Ron Horner"
<[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Interex News Announcement


> I would like to clarify a few points about my thoughts on a MPE/IMAGE
Users
> Group.
>
> 1) I recognize the existence of the OpenMPE Group and am fully behind them
> and anyone else committed to saving and extending the life of MPE, the
best
> OS ever produced.  However, OpenMPE is currently focused (as they should
> be) on obtaining the rights to MPE and getting HP to cooperate.  So far,
> they have not gotten traction with HP, but we all hope that they will.
>
> 2) Meanwhile, we users have certain needs.  Such as organized regional
> meetings.  I for one, miss the local RUG here in Southern California
> (SCRUG) that we used to have.  I miss the focus on the HP3000 that we used
> to have.  As support from HP declines we will need each other more than
> ever.  It is bad enough for a market as large as Los Angeles to not have a
> football team, but to not have a RUG?  That is too much.
>
> 3) Both third party vendors and HP will go wherever the customers are, but
> the customers need to have some kind of organization that works for their
> interests.  OpenMPE is busy with a very large task.  Interex is off on a
> mission of its own that nobody understands (run by Wintel/HP-UX/Linux user
> interests).  HP is a large organization in a mess which will only get a
lot
> worse if the merger is approved.
>
> 4) This 3000-L list is great, but I don't have all day, everyday, to work
> through it.  The price is right, but it is not quite the same as a real
> organized user group.
>
> 5)  There is precious little time left (until October 2003) to advocate
> enhancements to MPE.  It appears that Interex is not up to the task.  When
> they limit point allocation for item 1 on the 2002 SIB ballot to no more
> than 10 out of the 20 points available, I think they are biasing the
result
> to conform to a hidden (obvious) agenda which is not in the best interests
> of the HP3000 users.
>
> Both HP and Interex seem to have been hi-jacked by non-MPE advocates
> leaving MPE users with few choices.  The above points are my thoughts and
> observations on a difficult business situation that has been forced upon
> all of us.
>




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